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PtokaX => Feature Proposals => Topic started by: achiever on 10 July, 2007, 20:27:24

Title: GUI password protection
Post by: achiever on 10 July, 2007, 20:27:24
can the whole hub be password protected
i.e no settings page(none of the tabs) or any file in windows should open delete copy (total) without the password entered 1s after starting the application.
though it should run without need of password and start serving and then changes should only be allowed commands as GUI is locked till it gets password.

well i feeel the need so i asked :-)
Title: GUI password protection
Post by: bastya_elvtars on 10 July, 2007, 22:14:52
Quote from: achiever on 10 July, 2007, 20:27:24
can the whole hub be password protected
i.e no settings page(none of the tabs) or any file in windows should open delete copy (total) without the password entered 1s after starting the application.
though it should run without need of password and start serving and then changes should only be allowed commands as GUI is locked till it gets password.

well i feeel the need so i asked :-)

I second this idea.
Title: GUI password protection
Post by: PPK on 11 July, 2007, 00:01:26
And where to save this password to disallow anyone who have access to computer to get it or delete it to have access to PtokaX  ??? Windows register is not safe, same with PtokaX setting file  :'(
Title: GUI password protection
Post by: Madman on 11 July, 2007, 06:41:43
in memory?
and Px rembers the pass untill you turn it off.
Tho it would require the user to re-enter the pass everytime they start Px. (start the exe, not the start hub button)
Title: GUI password protection
Post by: achiever on 11 July, 2007, 16:59:17
how does any other software with this type of password protection save their pass?

password holding file should be most securely saved, shouldnt it?

thks,
achiever.
Title: GUI password protection
Post by: bastya_elvtars on 12 July, 2007, 00:20:35
Yeah, forgot about TrueCrypt (http://www.truecrypt.org).
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: achiever on 12 July, 2007, 21:35:48
well thanks for the help and ideas guys

hope it will help ppk to add this password protection.

thks,
achiever.
and ne 1 who moves this post to new topics thanks for it but plzz mention it at both the places. :)
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: PPK on 12 July, 2007, 22:18:30
Quote from: Madman on 11 July, 2007, 06:41:43
in memory?
Then will be always possible to close this PtokaX instance and start new without password.
Quote from: Mutor on 11 July, 2007, 23:52:19
There are many methods but strong encryption in a local file should suffice.
Locking that file when the hub is in use would help as well. In any event
the autostart function must be maintained.
Again, close PtokaX instance with password, delete file or password from file and start new without password.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: achiever on 12 July, 2007, 23:07:32
Quote from: PPK on 12 July, 2007, 22:18:30
close PtokaX instance with password, delete file or password from file and start new without password.
well when ptokax is closed then there should be some outside help, some other application which could be assigned the task to do this, like folderlocks (an application helps to lock folders) or something better...

thks
achiever.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: Tw?sT?d-d?v on 13 July, 2007, 13:04:50
Couldnt pass be saved like the reg users in a .xml file and then encrypted ..
Ive seen some dc clients use this method in the fav hubs  .... 
Looking at the 1 i use ( CrZDC++ ) my passwords for hubs are encrypted in the .xml file
If password is put in , it would only be needed when bringing ptokax out from tray.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: PPK on 13 July, 2007, 19:04:42
Quote from: Tw?sT?d-d?v?l on 13 July, 2007, 13:04:50
Couldnt pass be saved like the reg users in a .xml file and then encrypted ..
Quote from: PPK on 12 July, 2007, 22:18:30
Again, close PtokaX instance with password, delete file or password from file and start new without password.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: achiever on 14 July, 2007, 17:52:57
well can the password not be coded into numbers and then this number be worked(operated  + - / * > < ne thing) upon and agin get converted to some othe form like(hexadecimal, octal)  and then be stored in some random file created in some place in windows.

lol it mad,
neways this kind of thing ought to work, isnt it?.

well can some 1 think of ne thing much more easier plzz help.

thanks,
achiever.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: Typhoon on 14 July, 2007, 23:42:38
Quote from: achiever on 14 July, 2007, 17:52:57
well can the password not be coded into numbers and then this number be worked(operated  + - / * > < ne thing) upon and agin get converted to some othe form like(hexadecimal, octal)  and then be stored in some random file created in some place in windows.

lol it mad,
neways this kind of thing ought to work, isnt it?.

well can some 1 think of ne thing much more easier plzz help.

thanks,
achiever.

you would still need a way to fully bypass windows to shut the process down, therefor please read PPK's last few identical posts/reply's on this thread :) .
the idea is good, but still kind of weak since all processes in windows can be killed one way or the other ;)
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: achiever on 15 July, 2007, 09:53:29
does this mean that this can not be done?
as no 1 has yet come up with anything to bypass windows.
i just thought that a server software should have a password protection and thus posted this request but it seems to be very difficult to do it :(

achiever.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: Mardeg on 15 July, 2007, 13:45:40
"as no 1 has yet come up with anything to bypass windows."

bastya_elvtars gave the correct answer. Run PtokaX in a TrueCrypt virtual drive.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: achiever on 27 July, 2007, 16:14:15
hello ppl

i m sorry for digging up old topics, thought if it is possible to just protect it in the GUI and which will hand on even if application is restarted?

and let the windows protection stay for a while.

it would be great if could be planed how to do it and thus be made possible in new version

thanks,
achiever.
Title: Re: GUI password protection
Post by: pHaTTy on 09 August, 2011, 21:10:53
1 option would be to have a seperated small executable file which allows a user to set a password to start ptokax, it can bind a bootloader to ptokax holding the encrypted password, this would allow ptokax exe to be copied anywhere to any computer and would still require the password, however if you happened to lose the password, it would be a problem, if this is a good idea, if i get the time i might put a small app like that together.

-pHaTTy