Some ideas of improvement for the next PtokaX?
 

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Some ideas of improvement for the next PtokaX?

Started by Paco, 13 September, 2005, 03:24:55

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Paco

I think what I miss most in PtokaX so it can trully be perfect for me are:
- the lack of an IP verification when registering a new user, many users registers several times and growth of the registration file is substantial;
- the lack of add & remove buttons for the TempBan and PermanentBan. I think an owner should be able to introduce there as well directly an IP or a nick;
- an internal censor mechanism anti adv, nothing fancy;
- a log mechanism to save all server activity. The owner should know what's happening on his hub somwhow;
- posibility to configure at least a short welcome message different to each profile, besides MOTD.

That's it. I'm waiting for critics and ideea concerning my ideas of improvement.

blackwings

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Here is som critics =
QuoteOriginally posted by Paco
- the lack of an IP verification when registering a new user, many users registers several times and growth of the registration file is substantial;
this is not practical, because most people have dynamic ips. Which mean if ptokax would do as you said,
users would be like needed to reregister every week or month.
QuoteOriginally posted by Paco
- the lack of add & remove buttons for the TempBan and PermanentBan.
I think an owner should be able to introduce there as well directly an IP or a nick;
add button for tempban is unnecassary, but remove button exist for both tempban and permban + to add things to permban,
you just double click on the permban window.
QuoteOriginally posted by Paco
- an internal censor mechanism anti adv, nothing fancy;
its better to have a script doing this, then haveing it internally.
QuoteOriginally posted by Paco
- a log mechanism to save all server activity. The owner should know what's happening on his hub somwhow;
this can be scripted.
QuoteOriginally posted by Paco
- posibility to configure at least a short welcome message different to each profile, besides MOTD.
there exist several script that does this


Mardeg

QuoteOriginally posted by blackwings
Here is som critics =
QuoteOriginally posted by Paco
- the lack of an IP verification when registering a new user, many users registers several times and growth of the registration file is substantial;
this is not practical, because most people have dynamic ips. Which mean if ptokax would do as you said,
users would be like needed to reregister every week or month.

I'm pretty sure all that is meant by 'verification' is just preventing the same IP registering multiple usernames. This also is scriptable, but does require the storing of IP addresses in external files since ptokax currently does not record IPs on registration or 'keep track' of changing IPs of registered users.

The question of this and the other requests is, are they better off scripted or built into the hub? I think it's a matter of how vital the need is for each particular request, and how effective the implementation would be. A good example was the deflood script.

Since so many users can easily change their IP, I don't think the first request would be effective if implemented. Unfortunately the DC protocol does not require/provide any form of unique identification of users, so a script that checks/matches an amalgamation of various details would always be guessing. The more details, the better the guess, but also the more complex the script to avoid false matches.

Paco

blackwings you are completely right in many ways, but Mardeg is the one that really understood what I was trying to say.
About the IP I just thought that how mardeg said : "
I'm pretty sure all that is meant by 'verification' is just preventing the same IP registering multiple usernames".
As for the other stuff it's just a matter of considering it necessary or not, or leaving it for the scripters.
I only came with some of the ideas because things like logging and others are in my opinion basic stuff that should be part of a PtokaX Release as they run faster directly from the server compiled executable and leave the possibility to overide if necessary with scripts.

plop

deflood fixes exploits in px or the dc protocol, these are vital for every hub.
but i know of several isp's which put users behind a router on lan ip's.
and offcourse dynamic ip's.
so linking ip's 2 usersname isn't vital for every hubowner.
on the other hand the userdatabase size should be contained.
and best for this would be a build in usercleaner (delete after x day's not logged in).

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