to RevConnect or not to RevConnect

[enema]

Hi!!!

I guess, that there are lot of hub owners here, so I wanted to hear everybodys opinion about RevConnect! Why its so unwanted in so many hubs? I think, if user pays big money for his internet, he deserves to get his file faster than user, that has something like dial-up.

[Herodes]

have u paid for anything on DC ?

cause It is not a nice thing to mention .. many ppl like me ,..
dont have access to high speed internet ...

[*edit*] I am against enforcing the use of multisourcing as this is Slot-killing ... multi-sourcing clients DO take up free slots ... so normal dc users arent able to get any ... eventually they'll leave the hub ...

( If a multisource client doesnt finish its queue from a user it doesnt release the source same does norm dc but it doesnt occupy slots from others ... )

[enema]

huh, I never thought about that... But it still sounds unfair... there are ppl who has huge bandwidith. So there are more ppl, who can download from them with normal speed. What do they get for it? NOTHING! I think hub should be happy that there are users with huge bandwidith....

[Herodes]

Originally posted by enema
I think hub should be happy that there are users with huge bandwidith....

Well ...  HEeelloooOO!!

anyhow ... the fact that they dont get nothing can be taken on the narrowband* connections ...  but heronically ...

Seriously,...  why to seek for advantages when its meant to be equal ?



*narrowband <> broadband ....

[Optimus]

Hehe RevConnect is something for you Herodes. You have dailup connection time is money on your side. Lool

[imby]

I don't see what the big need is for multisource. people are so impatient. people with multi source should fundamentally be banned cuz they're impatient! and yes it works so wonderfully on kazaa and emule. the fact that no one wants to share because it's so impersonal goes over most peoples heads.

[enema]

Originally posted by Herodes
Seriously,... why to seek for advantages when its meant to be equal ?

Equal? As I know, ppl dont pay EQUAL price for their internet! Why choose Lan T 3 if u can choose Cable and use it with no difference? Thing is, that with Cable there are only 1 - 3 ppl who can download something from u. With Lan T3 there are 10 - 12 happy users, who can download from you. But do you care about them? I dont! As a ordinary user I would change my bandwidith to Cable.... I think, we cannot let it happen, that people start to think my way.

[Herodes]

DC is meant to work without privileges ... thats what I mean by "equal" ...

Ooh.. and you cant allow users to have multisource dnlds because they are on slow line and disallow it for fast-internet users ....

so the only way to handle that is allow/disallow for all ...

Use your MOtD's to state that ... and also take the time to put in some links for some proper multisourcing clients ...

[Boostland]

http://www.imperialnet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=243
some good info on how blind some people are to multi downloading clients, not a lot of logic applied to it, more emotion than logic.
All users should set the "No new downloads if speed exceeds" to a number below the speed of the connection, eg 512/128k set 43 - 45 that way you don;t take more slots from the hub than your connection can handle.
One of the best clients that is hard to cheat with is one called StrongDC,  if a user limits with it it shows the limit in the tag or the description.
if they run netlimiter it also shows that they are running that and the set upload limit, and if they limit with the built in limiter the download speed is limited on a ratio if a user limits the upload speed so they only cheat themselves if they limit too much, and the limits are displayed in the description if  they are running DC++ emulation.
Also now that DC++ has TTH in it they are looking to put multi source into it, so Revconnect and like will become the std client, NMDC was first and DC++ and oDC were the not accepted one's now DC++ and oDC are more accepted than NMDC, times change hubs will need to change and move on.
Do you know how to use dc++ as a faking client?.
use $MyINFO $ALL %[mynick] %[line:description] %[line:tag]$ $%[line:connection]r$%[email]$%[line:share]$|   as a raw command
then you can edit your tag, discription, connection and share.
All DC++ should be banned as a fakers client.
So next time you see a Noob OP kick a user for a Hacked client just think all DC++ and oDC are hacked and hackable clients
and you can speed limit and slot lock so users can't download from you with your firewall or router
you don't even have to work that hard and mod source the cheat exists in DC++.

[Psycho_Chihuahua]

"So Sad but True", well i've been using SDC since RC4 or 5 now and been happy with it ever since...but really gives to think, if u can Fake with DC++ u can Fake with most other Clients as well...so what u wanna do? block all clients in the hub except SDC? I guess whatever one does against faking clients, the ppl using them will just find new ways of doing just such.

[bastya_elvtars]

yea, but it needs a tool like bittorrent and emule that rehashes the dled chunk and checks if it matches the one @ another guy, if not, redownload. Until this aint in dc++, its unsafe.