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big lag

Started by MrZ, 17 April, 2004, 09:12:48

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MrZ

Hia guys and gals

We have started to get a big lag and connection problems at our hub...

The PC hub is running at has been reinstalled.. with no luck

Running amd 1.3 Ghz with 750 ram
0.3.3.0 build 15.25

Mean_Machine, Illegallist & L.I.S

we dono what to do anymoore and it seems to getting worse

Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

plop

QuoteOriginally posted by MrZ
Hia guys and gals

We have started to get a big lag and connection problems at our hub...

The PC hub is running at has been reinstalled.. with no luck

Running amd 1.3 Ghz with 750 ram
0.3.3.0 build 15.25

Mean_Machine, Illegallist & L.I.S

we dono what to do anymoore and it seems to getting worse


whats the amount of users and connection speed??

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[NL]trucker

MrZ

addon to the question of plop

How many down and uploads are running on the pc of that person who has the hub .
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Yeah

Try limiting you downloads speed for the person running the hub - or even unsharing to see if it improves

MrZ

Hia .. tnx for ur reply guys

The dude running the hub has no upldws/dwls (no share)

The hub is running on a 10mb upl/dwnl

The amount of users is about 180- to 220 (max 300)

Z ya guys :))
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

RDB

Im not sure if this helps, but is the max no of users set by the hub settings make any impact whatso-ever? or is it only any use when you try to get more users connecting than the settings allow?

plop

#6
QuoteOriginally posted by MrZ
Hia .. tnx for ur reply guys

The dude running the hub has no upldws/dwls (no share)

The hub is running on a 10mb upl/dwnl

The amount of users is about 180- to 220 (max 300)

Z ya guys :))
something is really wrong there, he should be able 2 handle more then 1000 users.
have you tryed running without LIS?
also illegallist can take some bandwidth.

any specs about cpu/mem usage?
ow and what firewall is he running?

plop
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http://www.thegoldenangel.net
http://www.vikingshub.com
http://www.lua.org

>>----> he who fights hatred with hatred, drives the spreading of hatred <----<<

Skrollster

Is he having Bitnet or Gavlenet as ISP?? sounds like it..

MrZ

Hia again...

ISP --> BBB
Firewal --> built in in XP (sp2:)), has tried a couple of weeks without  firewal with same result

[Sun:17:27]  Uptime: 1 days, 14 hours, 57 minutes
[Sun:17:27]  Users (Max/Peak/Logged) : 300 / 192 / 176
[Sun:17:27]  Unknown commands: 2 x 
[Sun:17:27]  PM commands: 2971 x 
[Sun:17:27]  Key commands: 150924 x 
[Sun:17:27]  MyINFO commands: 154886 x 
[Sun:17:27]  ValidateNick commands: 150905 x 
[Sun:17:27]  GetINFO commands: 722732 x 
[Sun:17:27]  Password commands: 153 x 
[Sun:17:27]  Version commands: 143264 x 
[Sun:17:27]  UserIP commands: 0 x 
[Sun:17:27]  GetNickList commands: 142342 x 
[Sun:17:27]  Search commands: 33153 x 
[Sun:17:27]  SR commands: 119537 x 
[Sun:17:27]  CTM commands: 403085 x 
[Sun:17:27]  RevCTM commands: 103896 x 
[Sun:17:27]  ------------------------------------------------------------
[Sun:17:27]  CPU usage (60 seconds average): 5.6%
[Sun:17:27]  MEM usage: 1891 kB
[Sun:17:27]  ------------------------------------------------------------
[Sun:17:27]  SendRestsPeak: 38
[Sun:17:27]  RecvRestsPeak: 4

Actually we also have a tiny script that looks and kicks dc++ versions over 0.307

Z ya
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

pHaTTy

probby being attacked =)

note: inbuilt firewall in all xp editions can cause comp crashes when serving, and often causes comp freezes heh =)

1 more thing 300 users in 10meg connection is nowt, so scripts wont do nowt to affect the lag =)
Resistance is futile!

MrZ

hia pH?tt?

pls explain attack,,, from what/who and how

ya have any ideas ??? the MM script has a built in "Peer Guardian"
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

pHaTTy

QuoteOriginally posted by MrZ
hia pH?tt?

pls explain attack,,, from what/who and how

ya have any ideas ??? the MM script has a built in "Peer Guardian"

what -> ddos maybe, another 10meg connection, infact ya running server as well so 5meg can do it maybe less =)
who -> i duno got any enemies?

how -> using progs or there experience =)

tell me hub addy =)
Resistance is futile!

MrZ

yes ph?tty,, I'm sorry to say that.. the moore i think about it the moore it looks like ur right.

One of the symthom, from a user: I get really lagged about 10min before getting disconnected

I have not so mutch lag, im not so far from the hub.


So now we just have to find a way to find who is ddos or whatever they using, us
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

[T-G-T]M@sto

I dont know a lot about this problems, but i do know i got the same problems. What i did was first to handle my SWAP files. Dont use swap files to your harddrive but to Ram. Dont use msn and IE (Internet Explorer) After this i still got the problems, but not to many as before. I do hope this help you and many others with the same problems.
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pHaTTy

QuoteOriginally posted by [T-G-T]M@sto
I dont know a lot about this problems, but i do know i got the same problems. What i did was first to handle my SWAP files. Dont use swap files to your harddrive but to Ram. Dont use msn and IE (Internet Explorer) After this i still got the problems, but not to many as before. I do hope this help you and many others with the same problems.

swap has to be set on hdd, comp uses memory anyways, but if u run out of memory, as windows dont always clear it in time b4 its all used, ur comp gonna have big crash......altho running hub and uses hdd for swap still gonna crash ya out lol
Resistance is futile!

Skrollster

i got 2 questions, that doesn't realy concern this problem but what you said erlier...

why block >0.307 and why inbuilt firewall in xp???

MrZ

Hia and tnx all for ur intrest in our problem.

The hub is on a dedicated PC, so we dont use IE or MSN on that, we also use a mem cleaner prog for garbage colletion.

The Swap file can be set to 0, but its unlikely the problem.. as the hub has been running fine all the time b4 this happends, some weeks ago... and just now the users is starting to get about fed upp,,

The dc versions over 0.307 is blocked because we dont whant to make it to easy for everyone to have evryone elses IP... I know this can be discussed a lot, but this is a decision the hubowner had made, and i can understand it ;)

Why he use the firewal,, hrmm i realy dont know (cant ask him now, im at work) but i guess it for the hubs protection..
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

plop

use a real firewall and if you have installed xp service pack 1 try 2 uninstall it.
if that sounds 2 scary 2 ya, just delete the swap file on shutdown (local securey policy).
if that helps you got a glitch according 2 M$ (huge f*ck up in my eyes).

plop
http://www.plop.nl lua scripts/howto\'s.
http://www.thegoldenangel.net
http://www.vikingshub.com
http://www.lua.org

>>----> he who fights hatred with hatred, drives the spreading of hatred <----<<

MrZ

hia

plop sorry my bad english...i dont realy understand..

1. get a real firewal
2. delete the swap file on shutdown
OR uninstall sp 1 or 2

is this what u meant ?? and if this helps it is Bill's fault all thing (hehe). Have i got it right ?



one of ur scrip is now running in there
Bot="deflood"

What are ur opinion about that
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

MrZ

#19
The problem is fixed :)))

I found from another ooold forum (2003) that there had been som problems with the port 411 on that isp.. I had that idea somehow in my backhead, but,,, yea ya know...

So we set up a temp-hub exactly the same (same address everything) and changed the original one with a diff port..closed down the org and both up again...
and the problem/lag was all gone..

All here tnx a LOT 4 ur help & support

(edited some spelling errors ;)

Z ya
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

pHaTTy

good to hear its sorted, nice thing to know for any others that have same problem....btw my comp crashed n lost ya addy pm me it if ya like =)
Resistance is futile!

MrZ

:))

yes i have checked up that there is a few isp's that having "problems" with the 411 & 412 ports.... so my advice to everyone is to change or prepare to do so...

(but what do i know .. a squarehead....hehehe)

Z ya around guys
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

plop

QuoteOriginally posted by MrZ
:))

yes i have checked up that there is a few isp's that having "problems" with the 411 & 412 ports.... so my advice to everyone is to change or prepare to do so...

(but what do i know .. a squarehead....hehehe)

Z ya around guys
any names of those isp ??
i know some finish isp limit those ports, but on those it's simply solved by running dc over ports 22/23/112.
had some1 on a universety lan who had about the same but was a bit harder 2 bypase, using port 8080 helped on him but was needed on the other side.

plop
http://www.plop.nl lua scripts/howto\'s.
http://www.thegoldenangel.net
http://www.vikingshub.com
http://www.lua.org

>>----> he who fights hatred with hatred, drives the spreading of hatred <----<<

MrZ

yup plop

BBB and Bostream (both swedish) as far as i know by now... will post moore if i get anymore info
Always remember that you are unique... just like everyone else :-D

Skrollster

This is very strange, i'v got BBB and haven't noticed any problem yet...

seems like it is just for some ppl.. but it does indeed look like it is time to intruduce adc, with no standard ports...

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