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Title: PtokaX vs YnHub
Post by: Requiem on 27 January, 2005, 21:07:34
I am planning a hubsoft change (From PtokaX to YnHub) due to some reasons (the main reason is I need to run the hub on more than one port, and other reasons are things like that..), but I am still thinking of it.. Please tell your opinions about why should I go on using PtokaX instead of YnHub, or why shouldn't I use PtokaX and start using YnHub immediately..
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Post by: ??????Hawk?????? on 27 January, 2005, 21:17:28
hi m8  

Just move over to it  ...

there is no Comparison.













you'll be back  :P

??????Hawk??????
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Post by: n1ck on 27 January, 2005, 21:50:04
Test and re-test, than come back lol
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 27 January, 2005, 21:59:58
i dont advise YNHub, its too easy to exploit!
its pretty much no different from yhub... actually it IS yhub with a few minor adjustments

in a word... shite
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Post by: Requiem on 27 January, 2005, 22:11:30
I am using PtokaX because of its high ability to use scripts and its ez to use but, I have seen some good abilities ( I think these are related with being the most up-to-date hubsoft ) of YnHub.  In fact, I just need  PPK's PtokaX edition (http://czdcplusplus.no-ip.org/PtokaX/images.html) but I guess he will not share it with me :)

And also, it is my mistake to ask this question on a LUA/PtokaX board, I know this, may I request from you to give answers like " PtokaX/YnHub, because of this " instead of directly " use PtokaX/YnHub " like Ruri_Ruri did?  You can understand this is the only way to help me with this quesiton..
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 27 January, 2005, 22:16:55
hey if u wanna use many ports:

http://www.networkactiv.com/AUTAPF.html

other reasons to move?
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Post by: Requiem on 27 January, 2005, 22:29:04
Stop MyInfo broadcasting for BW saving (No description, no tag, no connection, no email, these can be only visible to ops), better profile handling, better redirect options are the ones that quickly come to my mind..

Edit. And I heard PtokaX is really easily flooded
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Post by: ??????Hawk?????? on 27 January, 2005, 22:54:31
WOW


QuoteStop MyInfo broadcasting for BW saving (No description, no tag, no connection, no email, these can be only visible to ops), better profile handling, better redirect options are the ones that quickly come to my mind..

sounds like the Dogz bolloks m8  id  go use it if i were you


QuoteAnd I heard PtokaX is really easily flooded
Yup your right m8  ..   DELETE Deflood  and untick ' enable scripting '   And  you Heard Right ..


 :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P
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Post by: Requiem on 27 January, 2005, 23:24:54
To bastya_elvtars;

NetworkActiv program causes clients to show wrong IP in UserIP (they all have server's IP) and Deflood kick user for using wrong IP in the active settings. Is there any solution?

To ??????Hawk??????

I was using Deflood 4.5.4 and got attacked by a flooder called DCHD v1.6. (I can send you main.log if you wanna) I know, Plop can't make all the flooders to be stopped by this script but as far as I could know, it's hard for flooders to do their work on YHub/YnHub.

And, please don't behave me like I am a lamer.. I just want help and share my opinions :(
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Post by: ??????Hawk?????? on 27 January, 2005, 23:49:01
hi m8  


in my opinion  the 2  hubs  are not  comparable..

the only way to find out which is best for you is to try them..

i tried  y-hub a long time a go and so did a lot of ppl..
Everyone i know has now gone back to a scripted hub because of Y-Hubs LACK of scripting support and non custimizability( if thats a real word ).

YES  there are bots out you can use with y-hub BUT
if your running Y-hub AND the bots youll find the same as i did.  your b/w  will be taken long before Ptokax with similar scripts running will take it.

and reading back in the thread.....
Quote
QuoteRuri_Ruri

i dont advise YNHub, its too easy to exploit!
its pretty much no different from yhub... actually it IS yhub with a few minor adjustments

in a word... shite
Take the advise from someone who has Used the Faults of hubs to create flooders..

Give it a try  ..  if you dont like it  you can alway run ptokax again  :))


??????Hawk??????
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 28 January, 2005, 02:11:46
yeah, what hawk said

try it, test it, come back to ptx lol

like i said ynhub has just as many exploits as yhub and it easy (if not easier) to flood than yhub was, and with plops deflood for ptx, that makes ptokax the best hubsoft.

but its entirely upto u
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 28 January, 2005, 02:33:45
Yhub (no 'n') had many-many issues: crashing when regging the hublist, flooding the opchat with exception messages. OK, they are fixed but who knows?

PtokaX does not have such issues, i tested TD4, 15.8, 15.18,15.25 and they worked fine (OK, TD4 went mad after 16 days.)

And yhub does not prioritize packets so it cannot use your b/w in a clever way. But test it, eyes never lie. :)
Title: YN HUB
Post by: PRED_UK on 28 January, 2005, 03:16:16
Basically I`ve used both hubsofts and in my personal
opinion Yhub is and always will be inferior to ptokax.

Reasons
======
1) dont matter what you call it Yhub is Yhub and very
    vulnerable.

    Someone actually posted a way to get into it in the
    past which resulted in hubs been hacked to closure.

2) Minimal scripts for it ( if there is I don`t think Yoshi
    was responcible for them..

3) These people here are Pro`s they know what they
    are talking about.. I`ve tried all the hubsofts and 1
    of em came out top for scripts,security and easy to
    find technical help.

   Ptokax and Lua Language board ( All you`ll ever need)

  So the decision is ultimately yours....

 Good luck & i think you`ll make the right decision for you

Pred_UK [TFZ] UK`S FINEST ( Ptokax ) and loving it !!! :))
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 28 January, 2005, 03:47:54
it may also interest you to know there is a high chance of a 'backdoor' in ynhub (with the N)

i know very little, but what i do know is that a user can log onto the hub, send something to the bot, or something im main chat, and then that user gets auto-opped, and gets full acess to the bot

i dont know for sure if this is exactly what happens, but i have just seen it happen with my own eyes by guy names [SX]SolidFusionz

[2005-01-28 02:31] <[SX]SolidFusionz> you THE ruri guy rite?
[2005-01-28 02:32] what of it?
[2005-01-28 02:32] <[SX]SolidFusionz> want ta know the exploit in ynhub?
[2005-01-28 02:32] wtf u talkin bout?
[2005-01-28 02:32] <[SX]SolidFusionz> watch and learn n00b
[2005-01-28 02:23] watever, go away
[2005-01-28 02:26] <[SX]SolidFusionz> how bout that
[2005-01-28 02:26] holy fuck!!! how the hell did you do that???
[2005-01-28 02:26] how the fuck is that possible????
[2005-01-28 02:27] <[SX]SolidFusionz> that would be telling, cya

at this point he logged out of the hub

i then asked in TE hub and they dont know anything, but may be something about commands to the bot (as i explained above)

this is pretty serious shit if they did leave a 'backdoor' in there, and if 1 guy has it then its bound to get further

if u have any other info at all, please reply in this thread!!
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Post by: imby on 28 January, 2005, 05:01:12
QuoteOriginally posted by Ruri_Ruri
it may also interest you to know there is a high chance of a 'backdoor' in ynhub (with the N)

i know very little, but what i do know is that a user can log onto the hub, send something to the bot, or something im main chat, and then that user gets auto-opped, and gets full acess to the bot

i dont know for sure if this is exactly what happens, but i have just seen it happen with my own eyes by guy names [SX]SolidFusionz

[2005-01-28 02:31] <[SX]SolidFusionz> you THE ruri guy rite?
[2005-01-28 02:32] what of it?
[2005-01-28 02:32] <[SX]SolidFusionz> want ta know the exploit in ynhub?
[2005-01-28 02:32] wtf u talkin bout?
[2005-01-28 02:32] <[SX]SolidFusionz> watch and learn n00b
[2005-01-28 02:23] watever, go away
[2005-01-28 02:26] <[SX]SolidFusionz> how bout that
[2005-01-28 02:26] holy fuck!!! how the hell did you do that???
[2005-01-28 02:26] how the fuck is that possible????
[2005-01-28 02:27] <[SX]SolidFusionz> that would be telling, cya

at this point he logged out of the hub

i then asked in TE hub and they dont know anything, but may be something about commands to the bot (as i explained above)

this is pretty serious shit if they did leave a 'backdoor' in there, and if 1 guy has it then its bound to get further

if u have any other info at all, please reply in this thread!!

Interesting stuff. Are you aware of any nasty exploits in Ptokax? Not that I want any named, just that I'd like to know how safe it is from someone with your abilities perspective.
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 28 January, 2005, 14:21:02
yeah, i knew loads of exploits in ptokax, thats how i was able to do the destroyers ^_^
but there was never anything as serious as this
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Post by: TTB on 28 January, 2005, 15:27:37
The 2 hubs I run will not be changed to YnHub.... I have run 1 week YnHub, and I don't like it very much! I can't change anything (commands etc.) what I can change in the scripts here like LUA.


And this:

Quotei know very little, but what i do know is that a user can log onto the hub, send something to the bot, or something im main chat, and then that user gets auto-opped, and gets full acess to the bot
from Ruri_Ruri is very weird...

Like I said... I will not use this!


Btw... Ruri_Ruri... the time this happened to you, was today! That is strange to me, and the time is not in good order... it starts with [2005-01-28 02:31] and ends with [2005-01-28 02:27]. Sorry, but understand that it is strange to read and believe you.
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 28 January, 2005, 16:43:38
thats my system clock, i change it, so what? im sure you change urs dont u?

either way, its upto u, believe what you will with ynhub, but dont come crying to me when you get screwed
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Post by: TTB on 28 January, 2005, 17:46:27
@ Ruri_ruri

Well.. I don't change my clock so often, but it is OK to warn other ppl...

And I won't get screwed... because I won't run Y(n)Hub like I said in the other posts  :))

It is ok to post this, don't get me wrong. But it is hard FOR ME to believe...
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Post by: Tw?sT?d-d?v on 28 January, 2005, 20:20:21
hi ....

seems strange that you would change ur clock 2-3 times during the same convo.....

can i ask the point of this plz???

has i dont see the point of it myself
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Post by: ivulfusbar on 28 January, 2005, 21:07:13
lol... always interesting to hear script-kiddies.

If you want to flood a hub, its trivial. As the protocol and clients are built, they more or less encourage DDoS attacks so its trivial to achieve regardless of hubsoft. This has been known for years...  ;))

And any 14-year old boy that can read can achieve this within an hour from scratch.
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Post by: RiPOFF on 28 January, 2005, 22:30:27
If you guys are looking for a stable robust hub with no exploits, you guys are looking at DCH++. It has just been released with lua v5 scripting.

http://dchpp.digitalbrains.com

Oh and yes, it is open source.
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Post by: Requiem on 28 January, 2005, 22:52:21
I need immediate help to fight with this flooder (plop, Ruri and Meka pls help me pls..). I found some traces of it (believe in me you can find most of your questios answers from the data I'll provide) and I'll give these by PM cos the flooder may be a reader of this forum.

(Link is working.. Sorry)
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Post by: Jay on 30 January, 2005, 13:25:03
Hey Requiem did you get my PM and Email ?
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 30 January, 2005, 14:25:48
sum1 asked why i was changing my clock.. well really why should u care, but i was fiddling with it because i was working on Chibi, i couldnt get the timestamps to work properly on the kicks (still cant get it quite right)

i was asked to put the time of kicks in chibi, so thats wat i was doing when the guy PM'd me

if there was any confusion, im sorry
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Post by: Requiem on 30 January, 2005, 16:43:10
QuoteJay
Hey Requiem did you get my PM and Email ?

I got it but can you tell me how to trust in somebody that regged to the forum the day he PMd me? Do I know your IP? This is a serious thing and  have to be careful buddy, sorry for this..
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Post by: Requiem on 30 January, 2005, 16:50:18
And also.. Anybody except Hawk didnt want to help me? Why? Where are you?
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 30 January, 2005, 17:05:01
heres some more info on the ynhub backdoor

i dont know whether these work or what they do, but ive been told they are commands used in ynhub

1. +nextmap
2. +access secret files
3. +override
4. +Install Virus
5. +godmode
6. +shutdown -now

i dont know about you, but they do sort of seem suspicious.. maybe if you put them in some form of order, or a prefix after them like "+godmode ++me"

i dont know, but if these do have a function in ynhub, its a definate lead (im vers susicious about the godmode one)

any thoughts?
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Post by: Requiem on 30 January, 2005, 17:14:27
I know (not surely but almost sure) these are its easter egges. Look out for these at YnHub forum.
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Post by: plop on 30 January, 2005, 18:51:12
QuoteOriginally posted by Requiem
And also.. Anybody except Hawk didnt want to help me? Why? Where are you?
aslong as it's y(n)hub there isn't much i can do untill they add a lua api.
check your pm about deflood 5.0.

plop
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Post by: Requiem on 30 January, 2005, 19:03:25
I am using Deflood 4.5.4 (flooder knows this) and it didn't work. It didn't detect the flood.. I swear it didn't work although it was running..
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Post by: Typhoon on 31 January, 2005, 17:39:05
QuoteOriginally posted by datacafe
Rui_Rui is just some moron trying to discredit Ynhub. He cant even make a fake chat log without fucking it up. The whole ynhub community thinks your a dumb-fuck congratulations.

1. +nextmap
2. +access secret files
3. +override
4. +Install Virus
5. +godmode
6. +shutdown -now

These are easter eggs. They aren't the backdoors you moron. I've come to the conclusion that your talking out of your ass and haven't even tried Ynhub.

yes indeed those are easter eggs, but again why try it when it sucks and have such rumors, only those who have the source now the truth , and in old yhub there were attempt(s) on backdoors, but some smart user found it and then it got fixed only because it were found .. so why can't there be holes (call it what you want) in ynhub ? ? ,,,

Typhoon?
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Post by: Skrollster on 31 January, 2005, 19:21:12
QuoteOriginally posted by Typhoon?
yes indeed those are easter eggs, but again why try it when it sucks and have such rumors, only those who have the source now the truth , and in old yhub there were attempt(s) on backdoors, but some smart user found it and then it got fixed only because it were found .. so why can't there be holes (call it what you want) in ynhub ? ? ,,,

Typhoon?

I didn't think that you cared about rumors..

this is what happens if you use the ester eggs, nothing more nothing less:


[19:18:52] +shutdown -now
[19:18:52] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Hrmf.. I'm not a linux server dummy!
[19:19:00] +godmode
[19:19:00] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Yeah, right!
[19:19:07] +Install Virus
[19:19:07] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Virus installed!
[19:19:14] +override
[19:19:20] +access secret files
[19:19:20] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Access denied!
[19:19:22] +override
[19:19:22] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Access granted!
[19:19:30] +nextmap
[19:19:30] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> I'm not a friggin' countah server
[19:19:31] +nextmap
[19:19:31] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> I am NOT a friggin' countah server!
[19:19:37] +nextmap
[19:19:37] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> I repeat I AM NOT a friggin' countah server!
[19:19:39] +nextmap
[19:19:39] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> GO AWAY!
[19:19:40] +nextmap
[19:19:40] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> STOP BUGGING ME!!!
[19:19:42] +nextmap
[19:19:42] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> ARRRRRRHHH!!
[19:19:42] *** Disconnected
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Post by: Typhoon on 31 January, 2005, 20:31:40
QuoteOriginally posted by Skrollster
QuoteOriginally posted by Typhoon?
yes indeed those are easter eggs, but again why try it when it sucks and have such rumors, only those who have the source now the truth , and in old yhub there were attempt(s) on backdoors, but some smart user found it and then it got fixed only because it were found .. so why can't there be holes (call it what you want) in ynhub ? ? ,,,

Typhoon?

I didn't think that you cared about rumors..

this is what happens if you use the ester eggs, nothing more nothing less:


[19:18:52] +shutdown -now
[19:18:52] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Hrmf.. I'm not a linux server dummy!
[19:19:00] +godmode
[19:19:00] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Yeah, right!
[19:19:07] +Install Virus
[19:19:07] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Virus installed!
[19:19:14] +override
[19:19:20] +access secret files
[19:19:20] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Access denied!
[19:19:22] +override
[19:19:22] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> Access granted!
[19:19:30] +nextmap
[19:19:30] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> I'm not a friggin' countah server
[19:19:31] +nextmap
[19:19:31] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> I am NOT a friggin' countah server!
[19:19:37] +nextmap
[19:19:37] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> I repeat I AM NOT a friggin' countah server!
[19:19:39] +nextmap
[19:19:39] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> GO AWAY!
[19:19:40] +nextmap
[19:19:40] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> STOP BUGGING ME!!!
[19:19:42] +nextmap
[19:19:42] <[LightNetworkOP?]Bot> ARRRRRRHHH!!
[19:19:42] *** Disconnected


it wasn't all rumors in yhub.. so why should it be in ynhub , weel nothing is really proved on ynhub yet , but different reports of weird op account incidents .. so apparently there is some sort of weird bug or what ever ..

@ Skrollster , about "but again why try it when it sucks and have such rumors" , i was refering to why use it at all , as in general hub use.., when it sucks :)  , PX kicks Yoga Hub's and Young Nut's Hub ass ... and not all rumors are a hoax ;o) , just sp all folks remember that ..


Typhoon?
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 31 January, 2005, 20:39:37
please make comparisons in other boards, i don't like to see the board polluted by y(n)hub...

ok, its widespread- why? because its updated regularly and easy to use... and yes, there is a public download area and a website for y(n)hub, which makes it more accessible IMHO...

just think it over what's behind the scenes. yhub is not popular for its stability and speed but for (pseudo-)usability and availability. its way embarassing that ptokax does not have a site and an official DL location...

and dinosaurs are more popular than spiders... :D

(spielberg is the author of DC Hub Servers - he directed Arachnofobia and Jurassic Park  8) )
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Post by: jaggudada on 01 February, 2005, 20:00:14
Quote(spielberg is the author of DC Hub Servers - he directed Arachnofobia and Jurassic Park  )


 what ar u on mate ...!! pass us ome of that green stuff  u having!! 8o
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Post by: blackwings on 01 February, 2005, 21:45:04
QuoteOriginally posted by jaggudada
Quote(spielberg is the author of DC Hub Servers - he directed Arachnofobia and Jurassic Park  )


 what ar u on mate ...!! pass us ome of that green stuff  u having!! 8o
Well, I kind of agree with bastya_elvtars :P
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 01 February, 2005, 22:26:07
QuoteOriginally posted by jaggudada
what ar u on mate ...!! pass us ome of that green stuff  u having!! 8o

I do my job without that... using it is not interesting as it can be done by anyone. :D
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Post by: OpticaL on 01 February, 2005, 22:30:34
I know Ptokax have an backdoor that does almost the samething as you described so both softwares aint so secured
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Post by: MANOS on 02 February, 2005, 00:34:10
QuoteOriginally posted by OpticaL
I know Ptokax have an backdoor that does almost the samething as you described so both softwares aint so secured

Could u tell us more about that backdoor?
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Post by: BeeR on 02 February, 2005, 06:52:59
QuoteOriginally posted by Requiem
I am planning a hubsoft change (From PtokaX to YnHub) due to some reasons (the main reason is I need to run the hub on more than one port, and other reasons are things like that..), but I am still thinking of it.. Please tell your opinions about why should I go on using PtokaX instead of YnHub, or why shouldn't I use PtokaX and start using YnHub immediately..

Hi
I have used yn-hub for 2 weeks now and its not bad at all if you want to have lots of users (low cpu and mem)
but soooo boring soft with no fun stuff at all so you must choose if you want more users or a fun hub
btw - i have 2 ports on my ptokax 15.30 debug
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Post by: plop on 02 February, 2005, 17:07:14
QuoteOriginally posted by BeeR
Hi
I have used yn-hub for 2 weeks now and its not bad at all if you want to have lots of users (low cpu and mem)
but soooo boring soft with no fun stuff at all so you must choose if you want more users or a fun hub
btw - i have 2 ports on my ptokax 15.30 debug
couple differences on yhub and ptokax here, yhub shows the cpu usage of the hub itself, ptokax from windows (total cpu usage for the whole system).
the mem/cpu usage is depending on the scripts you are running on ptokax, so you can hardly compair yhub with ptokax because of this.
again the same for the amount of users (on a old compairison a.i. could handle 100 more users then mean machine).
finaly the 2de port was added in 15.31, plus the 15.30 you have is fake.

plop
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Post by: Requiem on 02 February, 2005, 17:48:31
May someone pls help me to get one of these 15.31+ versions ? I really need...
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Post by: imby on 02 February, 2005, 19:06:36
QuoteOriginally posted by Requiem
May someone pls help me to get one of these 15.31+ versions ? I really need...

We all want, not need, and I don't think it's gonna happen. Only for the 'elite' scripters/friends of pta with something to contribute, which I know isn't me. dunno about you.
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Post by: BeeR on 02 February, 2005, 20:33:15
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
QuoteOriginally posted by BeeR
Hi
I have used yn-hub for 2 weeks now and its not bad at all if you want to have lots of users (low cpu and mem)
but soooo boring soft with no fun stuff at all so you must choose if you want more users or a fun hub
btw - i have 2 ports on my ptokax 15.30 debug
couple differences on yhub and ptokax here, yhub shows the cpu usage of the hub itself, ptokax from windows (total cpu usage for the whole system).
the mem/cpu usage is depending on the scripts you are running on ptokax, so you can hardly compair yhub with ptokax because of this.
again the same for the amount of users (on a old compairison a.i. could handle 100 more users then mean machine).
finaly the 2de port was added in 15.31, plus the 15.30 you have is fake.

plop

Dear Mr Plop
Maybe your right about my 15.30 is a fake - but both ports works real fine to connect to my hub :]
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Post by: PPK on 02 February, 2005, 21:10:12
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
finaly the 2de port was added in 15.31
Sorry plop but that's not true :]

0.330 build 15.26 [transition build]
------------------------------------
- added: Chat and Commands tracing is included in hub settings
- added: On/Off state of individual script is now stored in scripts.ini in the scripts directory
- added: EXTENDEDPROTOCOL support (PPK)
- added: NoGetINFO support (PPK)
- added: support for various DC tags via ClientTags.dat file. (PPK) TODO: docs!
- added: Secondary hub port
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
plus the 15.30 you have is fake.
Probably not, if really have 2 workings ports maybe we have another buggy version leaked X(
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Post by: BeeR on 02 February, 2005, 22:03:12
Probably not, if really have 2 workings ports maybe we have another buggy version leaked  
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Dont be sad 'bout that - i'm happy because its more stable than the other version of Ptokax i have tested ,,

Ptokax is moving in right direction :]
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Post by: PPK on 02 February, 2005, 22:34:56
QuoteOriginally posted by BeeR
Dont be sad 'bout that - i'm happy because its more stable than the other version of Ptokax i have tested
Now you are happy, but if this version be leaked bad boys find how to crash it like old 15.25 :rolleyes:
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Post by: Requiem on 02 February, 2005, 22:45:36
I can understand you but bad boyz are always waiting for new hubsofts to find a way to crash, so this means it will never be released? :)
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 03 February, 2005, 00:06:02
QuoteOriginally posted by PPK
QuoteOriginally posted by BeeR
Dont be sad 'bout that - i'm happy because its more stable than the other version of Ptokax i have tested
Now you are happy, but if this version be leaked bad boys find how to crash it like old 15.25 :rolleyes:

In general we can say that it's a BAD idea to hide the betas completely. As i mentioned a few months ago, Yhub 0.387 betas were f***ing unstable and they still were available for public. You should have released some betas considered as 'quite stable' in order to give Px a more life-like flavor as TD4 is less stable than 15.18 IMHO. Of course i also understand Ptaczek's point but my opinion is that the more ppl use it the sooner the bugs reveal, thus enabling you to fix them faster and speed up the development, because many people are bored of TD4 and they do not wanna/cannot search for betas on ed2k or some other decentralized p2p network. :D

No offences, just harbouring the betas so strictly will result in contributors' people losing interest (i am not talking of myself) - about 2 months ago i got a message with such content from a very active and talented member of this board.
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Post by: PPK on 03 February, 2005, 00:33:11
QuoteOriginally posted by Requiem
I can understand you but bad boyz are always waiting for new hubsofts to find a way to crash, so this means it will never be released? :)
No i not mean never release, but 15.30 is easy to crash with one chat command and this command is available to all users... that's my point  X(
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Post by: OpticaL on 03 February, 2005, 15:29:37
people isn't out for crashing hubs they are out for looking for  security holes just to see if the hub program is good so the guy who made the hub software can fix them so we can get a good secured hub software!
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Post by: Requiem on 03 February, 2005, 16:00:32
As long as you don't release better beta versions than the leaked 15.25, I'll hear people saying

Quoteptokax is the WORST ever; can i be honest with you; i made the first ptokax hub killer when i was 14,  im 18 now btw... ...its so easy to take down, so insecure... ...it uses alot of recources, it takes 3x the recources and its so easy to hack, i can hack ptokax in 2 seconds... ...i also found out how to hack ynhub, but im going to work on fixing the hack...

taken from a chat session with smo

If you want to stop this kinda thingz to be told, you should have more beta testers. Notice that he doesn't say "I'll try to fix PtokaX" too.. Why? The answer is so easy to find out.. This is my own idea.
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Post by: plop on 03 February, 2005, 17:52:22
QuoteOriginally posted by PPK
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
finaly the 2de port was added in 15.31
Sorry plop but that's not true :]

0.330 build 15.26 [transition build]
------------------------------------
- added: Chat and Commands tracing is included in hub settings
- added: On/Off state of individual script is now stored in scripts.ini in the scripts directory
- added: EXTENDEDPROTOCOL support (PPK)
- added: NoGetINFO support (PPK)
- added: support for various DC tags via ClientTags.dat file. (PPK) TODO: docs!
- added: Secondary hub port
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
plus the 15.30 you have is fake.
Probably not, if really have 2 workings ports maybe we have another buggy version leaked X(
then we might have just found out a leaker, the ppl who have pta's releases after 15.25 can be counted on 1 hand.
still i can remember pta telling it was added around 15.30/15.31, or maby it worked bug free there.
but anyway thx for correcting my mistake.

plop
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Post by: plop on 03 February, 2005, 18:07:54
QuoteOriginally posted by Requiem
As long as you don't release better beta versions than the leaked 15.25, I'll hear people saying

Quoteptokax is the WORST ever; can i be honest with you; i made the first ptokax hub killer when i was 14,  im 18 now btw... ...its so easy to take down, so insecure... ...it uses alot of recources, it takes 3x the recources and its so easy to hack, i can hack ptokax in 2 seconds... ...i also found out how to hack ynhub, but im going to work on fixing the hack...

taken from a chat session with smo

If you want to stop this kinda thingz to be told, you should have more beta testers. Notice that he doesn't say "I'll try to fix PtokaX" too.. Why? The answer is so easy to find out.. This is my own idea.
because either deflood fixes it or it's fixed in ptokax itself.
the beta's ppk released don't need deflood as all things deflood filters is build into it allready.

ppl talk 2 much about resources without thinking.
if something uses more mem then it's bad, not true in many cases the speed comes from using the extra mem in a good way.
also yhub shows cpu usage differently then ptokax, this seems even harder 2 understand.
beside this the scripts come into count on ptokax, a.i. can do 1-3 with 5% on non risky mode peak, you can forget the 5% peaks on the risky mode, while mean machine needs about 6-10%.
all this on the same user amount/server cpu and connection, but a.i. is a lot bigger (about 12.000 lines).

if you wanna compair ptokax with some other hubsoft then take dch++/verlihub and dcsh.
all those have a lua api, and verlihub prob uses the least amount of resources from all hubsofts.
what i can remember, 12.000 users with 75% cpu on a xeon 2 something, just no idea if they had any scripts/plugin's running.

plop
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Post by: Tw?sT?d-d?v on 05 February, 2005, 13:08:34
mmm    so what are the back doors to ptokax ......

might be nice to know so ppl can work on fixing these,


been running my hub for about 5-6 months and its building up very nicely.... i would hate for some1 to come in and use these backdoor commands and alter settings ect....

i'm sure their are other ppl out there that feel the same
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 05 February, 2005, 13:30:02
Sapete perk? il ynhub sta sostituendo il ptokax? Perch? il ptokax sta morendo poich? le nuove versioni del ptokax le usate solo per voi tester... ynhub ogn isettimana crea una nuova versione... e voi del ptokax? Una ogni anno? Il ptokax... ? morto e per colpa solo vostra ciao
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 05 February, 2005, 13:35:48
English mode:

Do you know why ynhub is going to substitute ptokax? ptokax il going to death because of you testers that don't release new versions but hold them for you, ynhub create a new version every week, and ptokax only once a year, ptokax is going to be dead because of you! good bye!

or

Do you know why the Ynhub is replacing the Ptokax? Because the Ptokax is dying on the contrary it has died for your fault. The new versions of the Ptokax you use only for you Tester ... every week Ynhub creates a new version ... and you of the Ptokax? One every year? The Ptokax ... he has died and for your fault hi


:=p bye
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Post by: Tw?sT?d-d?v on 05 February, 2005, 13:53:27
thats a bit harsh  dont u think

im sure when the ptokax software is ready it will be realsed ....  
no point in having a bit of software that as bugs .......
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Post by: Quattro on 05 February, 2005, 13:57:52
Ynhub is in no way in comparison with ptokax....
The only hub softs which are in comparison as said earlier are verlihub en dch++.
and i think that ptokax and dch++ are competitors as for the advanced hubowners, Potkax is easy to learn easy to use.
dch++ is quite advanced and not so graphical....
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 05 February, 2005, 16:17:49
the new ptokax is gonna be very stable i guess (as far as i know PPK, the very 1st consideration @ him is stability).
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 05 February, 2005, 17:38:33
Yes... it is possible but.... it isn't pubblic version..... and not good for all; good only for tester. Bye
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 05 February, 2005, 17:41:08
QuoteOriginally posted by 6Marilyn6Manson6
Yes... it is possible but.... it isn't pubblic version..... and not good for all; good only for tester. Bye

You are absolutely right, altho i am not tester.
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 05 February, 2005, 17:48:15
OK... if it is therefore... it publishes it this evening to you... ok?
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Post by: BeeR on 05 February, 2005, 18:43:36
QuoteOriginally posted by Quattro
Ynhub is in no way in comparison with ptokax....
The only hub softs which are in comparison as said earlier are verlihub en dch++.
and i think that ptokax and dch++ are competitors as for the advanced hubowners, Potkax is easy to learn easy to use.
dch++ is quite advanced and not so graphical....

Ynhub is in no way in comparison with ptokax <-- who cares
yn-hub grows fast in popularity because: lots of users !!
there is no official release of ptokax that can match yn-hub & verli in userlimit ,,

Sad but true
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Post by: Requiem on 05 February, 2005, 18:53:19
Quotethere is no official release of ptokax that can match yn-hub & verli in userlimit

That is so sadly true.. I set up a new hub today. It is running on YnHub and with 5000 users it does the same job on the cpu as PtokaX does this with 750 users.. PtokaX (0.3.3.0 build 15.25) goes mad with over 500 users. I am sorry to say this, but I think I am gonna have a upgrade soon.. (Or will have a stable and fast PtokaX edition if it comes out fastly)

Server:
Win 2003 Standard
P4 2.4
512 DDR
100 Mbit FD Connection
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 05 February, 2005, 19:33:07
QuoteOriginally posted by Requiem
Quotethere is no official release of ptokax that can match yn-hub & verli in userlimit

That is so sadly true.. I set up a new hub today. It is running on YnHub and with 5000 users it does the same job on the cpu as PtokaX does this with 750 users.. PtokaX (0.3.3.0 build 15.25) goes mad with over 500 users. I am sorry to say this, but I think I am gonna have a upgrade soon.. (Or will have a stable and fast PtokaX edition if it comes out fastly)

Server:
P4 2.4
512 DDR
100 Mbit FD Connection


AMD 2.4 1gb ram Win2000+SP4 Connection:10mbyte

with ptokax 1600 user
with ynhub 3300

bye bye
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Post by: plop on 06 February, 2005, 18:06:18
you guy's should check before posting these things.
nearly all features which reduce bandwidth usage on the hub's are comming from verlihub.
just as verlihub has no guy and you ppl don't take a peek in the mysql database you won't find these bandwidth saver from verlihub.
verlihub hub still has the record for amount of users in a single hub, namely 12.000.
this is something no other hubsoft can reach.

about ptokax beta's.
if ppk would release the current version all he would get from you is loads of complains.
this doesn't work, that doesn't work, bla bla blah.
for example the current version i am running doesn't support lua sockets.
beside this lots of other things are disabled or not working yet.
whats the use of releasing a partial working hub?
pta/ppk want you 2 have a stable hub where all features work, not a unstable hub which can crash any moment or sends out errors.
keep in mind that this isn't a small update, many parts have been completely rewritten or still need 2 be rewritten.
they both have a private life and other projects they work on, give them the time and rest they need and in the end your gonna get a hubsoft you could only have dreamed of.

plop
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Post by: BeeR on 06 February, 2005, 20:09:31
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
you guy's should check before posting these things.
nearly all features which reduce bandwidth usage on the hub's are comming from verlihub.
just as verlihub has no guy and you ppl don't take a peek in the mysql database you won't find these bandwidth saver from verlihub.
verlihub hub still has the record for amount of users in a single hub, namely 12.000.
this is something no other hubsoft can reach.

about ptokax beta's.
if ppk would release the current version all he would get from you is loads of complains.
this doesn't work, that doesn't work, bla bla blah.
for example the current version i am running doesn't support lua sockets.
beside this lots of other things are disabled or not working yet.
whats the use of releasing a partial working hub?
pta/ppk want you 2 have a stable hub where all features work, not a unstable hub which can crash any moment or sends out errors.
keep in mind that this isn't a small update, many parts have been completely rewritten or still need 2 be rewritten.
they both have a private life and other projects they work on, give them the time and rest they need and in the end your gonna get a hubsoft you could only have dreamed of.

plop

You have right above 'bout not force ptokax to be a crapclient like y-hub was/is ,,
but the issue is that (nearly) all of the scripters is recomending TD4 to everybody
* that version is lightyears behind verli and yn-hub *
Requiem started this thread: ptokax vs yn-hub - the choice is easy if TD4 is to be matched against yn-hub ,,

Best Regard :]
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Post by: BeeR on 06 February, 2005, 20:11:28
Correction:

crapsoft like y-hub was/is
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Post by: ??????Hawk?????? on 06 February, 2005, 20:37:24
Quoteif ppk would release the current version all he would get from you is loads of complains.
this doesn't work, that doesn't work, bla bla blah.
for example the current version i am running doesn't support lua sockets.
beside this lots of other things are disabled or not working yet.
if NONE working features are documented as " not working " then i cant see that  anyone would complain about them.
Any complaints/comments on working features could only HELP in the developement.

Quotewhats the use of releasing a partial working hub?

To help in the developement of Ptokax  AND  supportive scripts..


??????Hawk??????
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Post by: plop on 07 February, 2005, 02:02:17
QuoteOriginally posted by ??????Hawk??????
Quoteif ppk would release the current version all he would get from you is loads of complains.
this doesn't work, that doesn't work, bla bla blah.
for example the current version i am running doesn't support lua sockets.
beside this lots of other things are disabled or not working yet.
if NONE working features are documented as " not working " then i cant see that  anyone would complain about them.
Any complaints/comments on working features could only HELP in the developement.
this has been done in the past, the best example is 15.24/15.25.
these we only ment for hub's with 800 or more users to check out a new way for memory handling.
several times it has been posted that this failed but still ppl use it on small/big hub's.

QuoteOriginally posted by ??????Hawk??????
Quotewhats the use of releasing a partial working hub?

To help in the developement of Ptokax  AND  supportive scripts..
you don't need the new beta's 2 allready start making scripts for it.
wombat released a lua 5 to 4 converter and you can make the same for the new dataarivals.
and not updates are on the lua api.

plop
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Post by: ??????Hawk?????? on 07 February, 2005, 03:10:47
Quotethis has been done in the past, the best example is 15.24/15.25.
these we only ment for hub's with 800 or more users to check out a new way for memory handling.
several times it has been posted that this failed but still ppl use it on small/big hub's.

Yup  and  im  one of the ones using it  ..  had my only choise have been one of the earlier versions (TD 4.99 and Below) i would have most likely stuck with VB and been scripting for Sdch.

luckly i was given the link to the old beta site where i got 15.25 and after testing against other hub softs,  decided it was worth changing over to AND learning LUA script from scratch..


Quoteyou don't need the new beta's 2 allready start making scripts for it.
wombat released a lua 5 to 4 converter and you can make the same for the new dataarivals.
and not updates are on the lua api.

yes  i/we  could start scripting in LUA 5  but wher's the result in that...
I personally script for fun and for a result , and the result is what keeps me going..


Maby if when logging in to your hub you was greeted with:-

[02:09] This hub is running PtokaX DC Hub 0.3.2.6 TestDrive 4  (UpTime: 1 hours, 35 minutes)

You would Share my views...



??????Hawk??????
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 07 February, 2005, 10:58:29
Dear Sir,

No longer DataArrival, but:

ToArrival(user,data)
ChatArrival(user,data)
ConnecttomeArrival(user,data)

or something similar, i cannot recall PPK's URL on that changelog.

The benefits? There aren't strsub's to be applied for the data and this reduces script resource eating.

Also some new addons:

GetHubTopic
SetHubTopic
GetAliasName -- hub-security alias
SetAliasName

These are features i can remember atm. hese aren't the proper func names but hey, they illustrate the new rocking features of px.  8)
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Post by: Meka][Meka on 07 February, 2005, 11:28:56
......

'YHHub'

has more holes then a second hand dartboard...
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Post by: blackwings on 07 February, 2005, 13:15:48
QuoteOriginally posted by bastya_elvtars
or something similar, i cannot recall PPK's URL on that changelog.
EDIT: sorry :P but someone did that in the Latest development news in the news section.

EDIT 2: PPK posted it to be more exact

EDIT 3: at page 15.
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Post by: OpticaL on 07 February, 2005, 15:54:35
if i were you i shouldn't give out that txt
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Post by: plop on 07 February, 2005, 20:14:54
i would like a public released beta just as much as you, but i also can understand pta's and ppk's view.
you would like 2 have it so you can start working on it, well i can but hardly any1 can use the things i make.
most the folks who have it have there own scripts.
so for me it's only the fun of trying out new things and getting headaches.
let me give you an example from myself.
i'm currently testing/building deflood 5.0 with a small group of testers.
it's going great but it's really anoying if i get a bug report on a old version which allready has been fixed.
i do need 2 answer that, but doing so this means i'm waisting time.
now imagine that deflood 4.x is running @ about 500-1000 (hard 2 guess) hub's and all those folks would try out version 5.
i could end up with a mailbox full of bug reports which would take me day's 2 answer.
therefor having a small group of testers willing 2 crash/trash there hub is actualy making it able 2 develop things faster.
the moment things are proven 2 be working stable there will be a public release.
as real life testing is always needed, but this moment were not yet so far.
the best option in my eyes is a bit bigger group of testers, for example all the lua scripters/debuggers from my hub (those proved 2 be faithfull 2 ptokax).
beside all this, 75% or more of the scripting i do for ptokax is still lua 4.
and yes i jumped a hole in the sky of 28 meters wide and 27636 meters high the moment i found the 1st update from ppk in my mailbox.

about the new dataarrivals.
bast is correct and you can allready use that on the old ptokax.
just send them all 2 the old dataarrival and use wombats 524 script 2 change the lua 5 code into lua 4.
ChatArrival = DataArrival
ToArrival = DataArrival
etc..
this is not the fastest way 2 make a script work, but it works, remove the 524 script and it would work fine on ptokax with lua 5.
the rest can be found here (http://czdcplusplus.no-ip.org/PtokaX/PPK-Scripting-PX0330Lua502.txt)

plop
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Post by: Ryan- on 23 February, 2005, 00:25:13
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
you guy's should check before posting these things.
nearly all features which reduce bandwidth usage on the hub's are comming from verlihub.
just as verlihub has no guy and you ppl don't take a peek in the mysql database you won't find these bandwidth saver from verlihub.
verlihub hub still has the record for amount of users in a single hub, namely 12.000.
this is something no other hubsoft can reach.

That is simply not true. YnHub reached 10K+ just the other day, and will most likely surpass the Verlihub record of 12K within a month or two. Mbit for Mbit YnHub beats Verlihub, due to some built-in (and optional) bandwidth savers. CPU and mem is not an issue either, although it has to be said Verlihub _is_ in it's own leage here. YnHub is good enough to reach 4000 users on a PII400 with 256MB of SDR before the CPU is maxed out, if configured properly.

That said - the new PtokaX will (from what I've heard from trustworthy sources) be something out of the ordinary. YnHub better watch out, PtokaX is coming.

Glad to see tha arrival of DCH++, but it does not seem to be able to compete with any of the "top 3", Verli, Pto or YnHub. When we tested DCH++ we never managed to surpass even 1700 users on a connection that just hours before had 3500 users on a YnHub. It simply disconnected the whole hub over and over again when pushed to the limit.

Anyhow, I digress. My point was - Verli sure as hell can be beaten, and it soon will be.

- Ryan
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 23 February, 2005, 02:05:13
OK, but see how many feature requests there are for PtokaX and how many for YnHub. PtokaX is not loved for being able to hold the whole globe but for high customizability.
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Post by: plop on 23 February, 2005, 07:55:58
QuoteOriginally posted by bastya_elvtars
OK, but see how many feature requests there are for PtokaX and how many for YnHub. PtokaX is not loved for being able to hold the whole globe but for high customizability.
all y(n)hub's are faceless and boring, ptokax on the other hand can be given it's own look and feel thx 2 the lua api.
it's like compairing a trabant with a custom made rolls royce (verli is like a custom made truck).

plop
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 23 February, 2005, 13:44:32
hey!

please do not do your sick jokes on trabants they all rock! :D
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Post by: OpticaL on 23 February, 2005, 16:07:29
Ryan have you heard the word clones before?
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Post by: PPK on 23 February, 2005, 19:14:07
QuoteOriginally posted by Ryan-
My point was - Verli sure as hell can be beaten, and it soon will be.
Verlihub running on Linux, BSD, MacOsX.
Verlihub supports plug-ins and more scripting languages.
Verlihub is fast ... 5000 users on P3 450 MHz with 128 MB ram.

Sorry but actually is here nothing able to beat verlihub :D

Btw if you point is beat only with max users, is easy to make "verlihub lite" without all slowing things (plug-ins, scripting, mysql) and nothing on Windows beat it :]
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Post by: TecMaster on 23 February, 2005, 19:49:18
No software is perfect even if it runs on linux  :P
Verlihub is no exception ...  even software on windows can beet it, you just have to find someone how can do it  :D
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Post by: plop on 23 February, 2005, 23:35:12
QuoteOriginally posted by TecMaster
No software is perfect even if it runs on linux  :P
Verlihub is no exception ...  even software on windows can beet it, you just have to find someone how can do it  :D
the problem isn't the hubsoft it's windows itself.
i installed kde-lite for fun on a p2 266 with 128MB mem matrox G200 running freebsd, it beated the crap out of my p4 1600@2138 with 512MB matrox G550 running windows 2k pro.
having the same amount of firefox browsers open and moving them around.
you would need a winlite and i doubt M$ could ever make 1.
another example.
the 1st version of the CMS for my website (lua script) took about 12 seconds 2 run on my p4 over the command line.
same script execute on apache running on windows took 4 seconds, this on a p3 733 with 512MB.
now i'm executing it on the p2 266 in a mere 1 second running freebsd with the lua command line.

plop
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Post by: TecMaster on 28 February, 2005, 06:55:37
Thats wasnt realy my point but your right.
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Post by: Jaakko on 10 May, 2005, 19:45:20
So how about it now when PtokaX 0.3.3.0 17.04 has been released? Can it beat yn-hub? (users, users and more users)
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 10 May, 2005, 19:52:24
QuoteOriginally posted by Jaakko
So how about it now when PtokaX 0.3.3.0 17.04 has been released? Can it beat yn-hub? (users, users and more users)


My server 2.4ghz 10mbit in upload and 1gb of ram... with ynhub i have 4041 user and no lag.. with ptokax.... 3400-3500 :)
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Post by: PPK on 10 May, 2005, 19:56:08
QuoteOriginally posted by 6Marilyn6Manson6
My server 2.4ghz 10mbit in upload and 1gb of ram... with ynhub i have 4041 user and no lag.. with ptokax.... 3400-3500 :)
Anything more than 3000 on 10 mbit without lag looks imposible for me, but i don't have server to test it :D
Btw any more stats like cpu and mem usage  ?(
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Post by: -SkA- on 17 June, 2005, 19:57:14
------------------------------------------------------------
Current stats:
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Version: PtokaX DC Hub 0.3.3.1 [debug] built on Jun 10 2005 01:35:21
Uptime: 0 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes
Users (Max/Actual Peak (Max Peak)/Logged) : 3500 / 3035 (3257) / 3027
Chat messages: 1508 x
Unknown commands: 1 x
PM commands: 2544 x
Key commands: 54348 x
Supports commands: 51839 x
MyINFO commands: 126214 x
ValidateNick commands: 46877 x
GetINFO commands: 2487 x
Password commands: 310 x
Version commands: 33029 x
UserIP commands: 632148 x
GetNickList commands: 37226 x
Search commands: 242223 x
SR commands: 4364727 x
CTM commands: 2314817 x
RevCTM commands: 1283369 x
BotINFO commands: 3 x
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU usage (60 sec avg): 13.52%
CPU time: 3:45:14
Mem usage (Old style): 4396 kB
Mem usage (Peak): 78.24 MB (144.13 MB)
VM size (Peak): 80.42 MB (145.86 MB)
------------------------------------------------------------
SendRests (Peak): 0 (0)
RecvRests (Peak): 3 (15)
Data sent: 37.14 GB
Data received: 916.65 MB
Tx (60 sec avg): 1.73 MB/s (1.48 MB/s)
Rx (60 sec avg): 239.78 kB/s (59.54 kB/s)

and no lag  :P
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Post by: plop on 17 June, 2005, 21:31:04
QuoteOriginally posted by -SkA-
------------------------------------------------------------
Current stats:
------------------------------------------------------------
Version: PtokaX DC Hub 0.3.3.1 [debug] built on Jun 10 2005 01:35:21
Uptime: 0 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes
Users (Max/Actual Peak (Max Peak)/Logged) : 3500 / 3035 (3257) / 3027
Chat messages: 1508 x
Unknown commands: 1 x
PM commands: 2544 x
Key commands: 54348 x
Supports commands: 51839 x
MyINFO commands: 126214 x
ValidateNick commands: 46877 x
GetINFO commands: 2487 x
Password commands: 310 x
Version commands: 33029 x
UserIP commands: 632148 x
GetNickList commands: 37226 x
Search commands: 242223 x
SR commands: 4364727 x
CTM commands: 2314817 x
RevCTM commands: 1283369 x
BotINFO commands: 3 x
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU usage (60 sec avg): 13.52%
CPU time: 3:45:14
Mem usage (Old style): 4396 kB
Mem usage (Peak): 78.24 MB (144.13 MB)
VM size (Peak): 80.42 MB (145.86 MB)
------------------------------------------------------------
SendRests (Peak): 0 (0)
RecvRests (Peak): 3 (15)
Data sent: 37.14 GB
Data received: 916.65 MB
Tx (60 sec avg): 1.73 MB/s (1.48 MB/s)
Rx (60 sec avg): 239.78 kB/s (59.54 kB/s)

and no lag  :P

what are server/connection specs?

plop
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Post by: -SkA- on 17 June, 2005, 21:50:05
AMD 2400+ 512 MB RAM 100 MBIT connection (not dedicated but shared)
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 17 June, 2005, 22:04:53
QuoteHub Information
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 Hub name is: ITA?-?iChNuS@?-?iChNuS@nEt
 Sharelimit: 5.00 GiB (max: 2.00 TiB)
 Hubs: 16
 Slots (min/max): 2 / 30
 Slotratio: disabled
 Accounts: 247
 Nick bans: 123
 IP bans: 690
 DNS bans: 0
 Client bans: 4

Core Information
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 Version: 1.031
 Uptime: 1:01:57:04
 Workpace: Lazy
 Port(s): 411
 Current sharesize: 181.65 TiB
 Users (current/peak/record): 4903 / 4990 / 7629
 Users authorizing: 14
 Userlimit: 5000
 Login timeouts: 1570
 Idle timeouts: 2596
 Too slow drops: 95
 Spam kicks: 0

System Information
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 CPU time: 08:13:25
 CPU usage: 45.65% (During last 30s period)
 Memory available: 155.11 MiB
 Memory usage: 124.32 MiB (155.54 MiB)
 VM usage: 145.10 MiB (184.29 MiB)
 Paged pool: 1.49 MiB (1.53 MiB)
 Non-paged pool: 22.83 MiB (34.24 MiB)

Core statistics
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 Nick entries: 22707 (Userstats)
 IP entries 29479 (Userstats)
 Socket errors: 22596
 Errors: 0


it is AMD 2400+ 1024 MB RAM 100 MBIT connection
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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 17 June, 2005, 22:08:28
and this is my hub

QuoteHub Information
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 Hub name is: ITA?-?Planetarium?Hub?-?iChNuS@nEt?-
 Sharelimit: 10.00 GiB (max: 5.00 TiB)
 Hubs: 39
 Slots (min/max): 1 / 39
 Slotratio: disabled
 Accounts: 213
 Nick bans: 156
 IP bans: 1
 DNS bans: 0
 Client bans: 13

Core Information
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 Version: 1.02
 Uptime: 28:12:02:15
 Workpace: Sleeping
 Port(s): 411
 Current sharesize: 69.59 TiB
 Users (current/peak/record): 1598 / 1601 / 4043
 Users authorizing: 3
 Userlimit: 1600
 Login timeouts: 55
 Idle timeouts: 366
 Too slow drops: 1
 Spam kicks: 0

System Information
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 CPU time: 00:05:03
 CPU usage: 8.85% (During last 30s period)
 Memory available: 750.87 MiB
 Memory usage: 39.00 MiB (39.03 MiB)
 VM usage: 48.42 MiB (48.49 MiB)
 Paged pool: 413.80 KiB (414.98 KiB)
 Non-paged pool: 20.72 MiB (21.09 MiB)

Core statistics
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 Nick entries: 4781 (Userstats)
 IP entries 5395 (Userstats)
 Socket errors: 3620
 Errors: 0

it is AMD 2400+ 1024 MB RAM 10 MBIT connection
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Post by: -SkA- on 17 June, 2005, 22:16:19
QuoteOriginally posted by 6Marilyn6Manson6
QuoteHub Information
*************
 Hub name is: ITA?-?iChNuS@?-?iChNuS@nEt
 Sharelimit: 5.00 GiB (max: 2.00 TiB)
 Hubs: 16
 Slots (min/max): 2 / 30
 Slotratio: disabled
 Accounts: 247
 Nick bans: 123
 IP bans: 690
 DNS bans: 0
 Client bans: 4

Core Information
**************
 Version: 1.031
 Uptime: 1:01:57:04
 Workpace: Lazy
 Port(s): 411
 Current sharesize: 181.65 TiB
 Users (current/peak/record): 4903 / 4990 / 7629
 Users authorizing: 14
 Userlimit: 5000
 Login timeouts: 1570
 Idle timeouts: 2596
 Too slow drops: 95
 Spam kicks: 0

System Information
****************
 CPU time: 08:13:25
 CPU usage: 45.65% (During last 30s period)
 Memory available: 155.11 MiB
 Memory usage: 124.32 MiB (155.54 MiB)
 VM usage: 145.10 MiB (184.29 MiB)
 Paged pool: 1.49 MiB (1.53 MiB)
 Non-paged pool: 22.83 MiB (34.24 MiB)

Core statistics
*************
 Nick entries: 22707 (Userstats)
 IP entries 29479 (Userstats)
 Socket errors: 22596
 Errors: 0


it is AMD 2400+ 1024 MB RAM 100 MBIT connection

1 GB and only 155 mb free??? wow...
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Post by: PPK on 30 July, 2005, 20:20:31
Duron 700 MHz, 256 MB ram, 10 mbps connection, Windows 2003
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Current stats:
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Version: PtokaX DC Hub 0.3.3.1j [debug] built on Jul 30 2005 18:54:49
Uptime: 0 days, 1 hours, 4 minutes
Users (Max/Actual Peak (Max Peak)/Logged) : 2500 / 2230 (2230) / 2203
Chat messages: 137 x
Unknown commands: 0 x
PM commands: 82 x
Key commands: 122518 x
Supports commands: 119964 x
MyINFO commands: 125741 x
ValidateNick commands: 120544 x
GetINFO commands: 6062 x
Password commands: 64 x
Version commands: 117969 x
UserIP commands: 43352 x
GetNickList commands: 118031 x
Search commands: 17596 x
SR commands: 182946 x
CTM commands: 62048 x
RevCTM commands: 43798 x
BotINFO commands: 0 x
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CPU usage (60 sec avg): 27.00%
CPU time: 0:15:18
Mem usage (Old style): 3786 kB
Mem usage (Peak): 22.59 MB (27.58 MB)
VM size (Peak): 22.85 MB (28.37 MB)
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SendRests (Peak): 31 (58)
RecvRests (Peak): 0 (11)
Data sent: 1.47 GB
Data received: 65.83 MB
Tx (60 sec avg): 445.34 kB/s (575.51 kB/s)
Rx (60 sec avg): 4.80 kB/s (12.56 kB/s)
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Post by: PPK on 01 August, 2005, 19:11:41
Duron 700 MHz, 256 MB ram, 10 mbps connection, Windows 2003
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Current stats:
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Version: PtokaX DC Hub 0.3.3.2a [debug] built on Jul 31 2005 22:52:05
Uptime: 0 days, 19 hours, 36 minutes
Users (Max/Actual Peak (Max Peak)/Logged) : 3250 / 3199 (3199) / 3192
Chat messages: 1388 x
Unknown commands: 330 x
PM commands: 1137 x
Key commands: 1248343 x
Supports commands: 1215000 x
MyINFO commands: 1208519 x
ValidateNick commands: 1232884 x
GetINFO commands: 26498 x
Password commands: 325 x
Version commands: 1056317 x
UserIP commands: 1210869 x
GetNickList commands: 1050124 x
Search commands: 394030 x
SR commands: 7668975 x
CTM commands: 3252331 x
RevCTM commands: 2252580 x
BotINFO commands: 6 x
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CPU usage (60 sec avg): 44.90%
CPU time: 6:33:28
Mem usage (Old style): 4689 kB
Mem usage (Peak): 89.29 MB (96.63 MB)
VM size (Peak): 90.96 MB (98.38 MB)
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SendRests (Peak): 94 (117)
RecvRests (Peak): 0 (13)
Data sent: 53.58 GB
Data received: 1.73 GB
Tx (60 sec avg): 905.23 kB/s (1.32 MB/s)
Rx (60 sec avg): 52.72 kB/s (27.34 kB/s)
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Post by: plop on 05 August, 2005, 01:12:52
any scripts running on that server ?

plop
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Post by: PPK on 05 August, 2005, 16:29:42
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
any scripts running on that server ?
Yes 4 custom scripts (nothing like robocop)...