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Forum => News => Topic started by: ptaczek on 05 December, 2003, 13:30:27

Title: POLL FOR BETATESTERS
Post by: ptaczek on 05 December, 2003, 13:30:27
Hi, because I would like to give the same options to everyone in the BetaTeam, I have an idea to add a subsection to the DevCorner beta download page for experimental builds that should be tested on hubs with say 800+ users (the more the better). So something like beta versions of beta versions ;)
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Post by: Optimus on 05 December, 2003, 13:47:12
Well me don't mind at all, important is that you will continou your work. In 1 way or another :]
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Post by: Dyzan on 05 December, 2003, 13:49:59
450+ user, does that count? if not, dam!  :D

Well, I can wait for more stabel beta versions to test.
But it would be nice with a new version to come out  so NightLitch and I, can continue develop our scripts. For that theres only b11 thats are stabel with scripts... but the problem is that it don't have the new fancy features that b15.x have... But then theres that nast buggs for scripts in b15.x version. Doh!  :D

Well, I hope we get a newer stabel version very soon.  ;) We, are out of schedule any way. :)

/Dyzan
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Sorry for my bad english.
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Post by: Snoris on 05 December, 2003, 13:58:24
I would like to test that couse one of the hubs in my new network is 800+ users....So I could keep on bete testing if I may =]
Also intresting of continue with the hubsoft to my own hub :]
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Post by: TiMeTrAVelleR on 05 December, 2003, 14:11:03
Sure lets go for it   8)
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Post by: NightLitch on 05 December, 2003, 14:11:43
Do as you want ptaczek, am just testing the script section... I would want the $MyInfo to be fixed or solved
one way or another...

Good to see you by the way, have been a long time... :-)

/NL
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Post by: pHaTTy on 05 December, 2003, 17:31:23
You can count me if for the next few month ;)
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Post by: turkiye on 05 December, 2003, 18:06:47
You can count me 2  :D
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Post by: pHaTTy on 05 December, 2003, 18:53:28
QuoteOriginally posted by turkiye
You can count me 2  :D

Thread for beta testers...... ehem
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Post by: [T-G-T]M@sto on 05 December, 2003, 18:55:10
QuoteOriginally posted by (uk-kingdom)pH?tt?
QuoteOriginally posted by turkiye
You can count me 2  :D

Thread for beta testers...... ehem
Some just need to make trouble or can't read   ?(
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Post by: pHaTTy on 05 December, 2003, 18:59:37
LOOOL he he he
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Post by: plop on 05 December, 2003, 19:23:18
tricky, 1 part of me says make that page the other says no.
as you allready say it's for big hub's only and for special testing purpose.
if you do make it then pls give some extended info on what changed or needed 2 be tested.
maby it would be better 2 make/keep it only avail for a small group of testers like you have now running those special build's.
as you can see allready some users are responding who can't make that amount of users so my gues is that even more small hub's are gone try it wich is uselless, they should be running the other releases so they can find the more rare bugs/errors.
this can help more in getting ptokax perfect.

plop
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Post by: pHaTTy on 05 December, 2003, 19:27:35
QuoteOriginally posted by plop
tricky, 1 part of me says make that page the other says no.
as you allready say it's for big hub's only and for special testing purpose.
if you do make it then pls give some extended info on what changed or needed 2 be tested.
maby it would be better 2 make/keep it only avail for a small group of testers like you have now running those special build's.
as you can see allready some users are responding who can't make that amount of users so my gues is that even more small hub's are gone try it wich is uselless, they should be running the other releases so they can find the more rare bugs/errors.
this can help more in getting ptokax perfect.

plop


very agreable, i think 750-800 is an easy target, but i believe you shud just keep it to the little team you have,

and do what plop says yep, i agree wiv plop :)
Title: heh
Post by: Hades on 05 December, 2003, 20:09:56
I]'m trying to get into beta testing team without any response !!!
Can anyone help???
Ptaku seems to ignore my e mails!
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Post by: NightLitch on 05 December, 2003, 20:24:53
That would be becouse we are enough beta testers...

I hope for sure now that this little beta group that have
been made surely test the Script part real good to...

Sure many of you just use the hubsoft But I want to be
able to use my scripts to 100%...

So I hope some good scriptets as well get the newest debug to...

/NL
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Post by: plop on 05 December, 2003, 20:33:38
QuoteOriginally posted by Hades
I]'m trying to get into beta testing team without any response !!!
Can anyone help???
Ptaku seems to ignore my e mails!
he's human 2 just like you.
he has a busy life and can't always respond 2 every email instandly.
if he needs more beta testers he whill respond.
if not you can't blame him for not responding.
there are more ppl wanting 2 be betatester then he needs.
and it's not always fun 2 test, for example the hub can crash while your away/asleep, i bet you and your users won't like that.
be patient and pray you get selected but pls don't spam his email with requests.

plop
Title: trust me
Post by: Hades on 05 December, 2003, 22:06:18
I can release ptokax 03.3.0 by tommorrow but what would that be?
I know vb.c+,boreland etc so no prob just want to check it out@!
Title: testhub
Post by: Nidaros on 05 December, 2003, 23:13:40
If u need users 2 a testhub, tell Plop and I will redirect
users.
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Post by: bolamix on 05 December, 2003, 23:21:07
I voted yes, but i won't be a beta-beta tester anyway, mostly because my hub is home to all of 80-100 users ;)

And, er... take it easy, Hades, beta-testing ain't all it's cracked up to be 8) One thing I'll grant you (which hadn't occurred to me before) is that maybe ptaczek should have posted a quick post to say "enough beta-testers, no more!". Ah well, please don't go spoiling it for the other kids in the playground, patience can be as much of a virtue as knowing vb, c++ and borland.  ;)
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Post by: Snoris on 05 December, 2003, 23:45:49
QuoteOriginally posted by Hades
I can release ptokax 03.3.0 by tommorrow but what would that be?
I know vb.c+,boreland etc so no prob just want to check it out@!

Well isnt that qute??
*Claps his hands togheter*
Lets just face the fact that the Beta testers is plenty and IF ptaczek wanna have you as a beta tester he WILL contact you....One way or another...Just be patient and let it be....
As I said there is plenty of beta testers (probablly more than enogh) so just stay calm and wait til the final hubsoft is out for every one of you people...
Hope you get the point...

PtokaX is just about love, peace and understanding...Don't ruin that :]
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Post by: DarkElf on 06 December, 2003, 01:02:20
Hi, count me in and my new hub.. 1500 users max
Title: POLL FOR BETATESTERS
Post by: MrZ on 06 December, 2003, 08:19:35
Hia:))

Zitat -ptaczek- :---------------------------------------------------

Beause I would like to give the same options to everyone in the BetaTeam, I have an idea to add a subsection to the DevCorner beta download page for experimental builds that should be tested on hubs with say 800+ users (the more the better). So something like beta versions of beta versions ;)
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I think u do just the right thing Ptaczek, if u wanna test something that only occour on the big hub's. Just do as u wich but tell us!

I Don't have such a hub so i cant test what u want :))

Btw this tread is about a POLL..seems like some of the post could be posted somewere else...

Z ya folks
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Post by: Troubadour on 06 December, 2003, 09:57:43
*just for the record* I mailed ptaczek a script section error containing the scripts which i created and changed when the error occured.
(that's the 5th error i send in)
For the POLL i would recommend just another release saying something like Ptokax 0.3.3.0 (debug 15.20 bighubs) so i just can ignore it, because my hub isn't that huge.
Just had a visitor in the hub last night with the ptokax 0.3.3.0 (debug 15.18) version in his share. He was gone when i checked but was spamming the mainchat to people to download it from him and check it out.
Ptaczek keep up the good work.

-Troubadour-
Title: ehmm
Post by: Dax on 06 December, 2003, 16:08:17
I'm here....
I have 600 user or more(in saturday) count on me!!!
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Post by: [ES]latinmusic on 06 December, 2003, 17:18:19
I wanna test it, count me in as usual althougth you know i have not so many users.

I have read all this thread so:
For Beta Tester team:
Try to keep update the board about possibles problems that should come out and include the REAL numbers of users when the problem is found. Note: If you have only 10 users, don't fake the user number because if you have the beta version, ptacek will assume that you are a valid beta tester so your report is valid as others and could be useffull too. I'm interesting to know is myinfo string is back working as expected, and also if last releases of odc++ works ok with last build, for people who don't know it, there is a bug inside ptokax that could cause odc crash and ptacek already know it.

For Ptacek: I have a few ideas around, not features, not bugs so i wanna talk about them because could be interesting and also i need you authorization to do certain stuff, i will send you a pm with a little more info about it and also i will try to contact you tomorrow in the old way, as ussual, i will take not more than 10 minutes of time if you are available.
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Post by: Troubadour on 06 December, 2003, 17:27:11
last releases of odc++ doesn't work with the new build (keeps getting disconnected)

-Troubadour-
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Post by: Smile on 06 December, 2003, 19:53:25
Count me...  :]  i have a hub of 700 user...
i've changed addres... (freestyle.no-ip.biz)
Title: BETA
Post by: XPMAN on 07 December, 2003, 09:27:13
I would like to test it, i am testing the PtokaX 3.3.0 15.18 now. I run a private hub with right at 1200 members, most of the time 700+ in. Keep up the good work. I am offically a di-hard PtokaX hub user and love it.
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Post by: Typhoon on 07 December, 2003, 17:04:20
agree to all the above.. we have allways 1000+ users and increasing..
Title: Why should it always be big hubs ?
Post by: Intel on 07 December, 2003, 21:06:07
Why is it that always its only big hubs that get the bigger chances, what about us who have lets say +200 or +300 and cannot manage more than max 500 people ? give it some freedom guys, make it equal...

My point of view on things

Punnakku
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Post by: plop on 07 December, 2003, 23:23:45
QuoteOriginally posted by Intel
Why is it that always its only big hubs that get the bigger chances, what about us who have lets say +200 or +300 and cannot manage more than max 500 people ? give it some freedom guys, make it equal...

My point of view on things

Punnakku
because for the reason you just gave yourself you won't be able 2 find these problems.
if you take a look in the beta test thread you can find a post from me where i report about a memory problem.
as you can only hold 500 user you won't be able 2 kick 1000+ users.
this makes it useless for you 2 run those beta's.
but ppl like you who have smaller hub's are also needed, for example what happens if the hub is running for over 4 weeks ??
every1 should test what he is best in, big hub's can test things wich small hub's can't do.
it's not 2 tease the small hub's @ all, just a fact.

plop
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Post by: lazyj189 on 08 December, 2003, 01:09:56
agreed.  Bigger hubs get to really test out the software to its limits.  us smaller hubs (mine is 250 max) just cant "push" the software like it is sometimes needed when there is a problem like this one.  I myself figure that ptaczek knows somewhere that I can do 250 users max, and that if I was needed to test out this .23 or whatever release it is, I would have access to it.  Since I do not, nor has a release been sent to me via email, then I am not going to stress and worry about it.  I will just keep on testing the 15.18 that I have and report any errors.  So I say if the bigger hubs are needed to test the limits of ptokax, then so be it.  Also rememebr this.... Its not all about getting the best and newest release of the software.  We're beta testers.  That means (to me) that we have been asked to help out in the perfection (or as close to) of certian software.  It didnt mean to compete or "get what we can".  It's to help Ptaczek out in his developing.  We're doing this to help him out so he can release publically a version that will be worth while.  Just keep this in mind when anyone thinks of the "fairness" of big hubs getting newer releases vs. smaller hubs.
Title: heh
Post by: Hades on 08 December, 2003, 02:18:25
Ok I'm claping my hands now!!

Does ptokax 3.3.0 support external bots???
Anyone?
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Post by: pHaTTy on 08 December, 2003, 02:21:30
QuoteOriginally posted by Hades
Ok I'm claping my hands now!!

Does ptokax 3.3.0 support external bots???
Anyone?

yes it does :)) but depends on what the external bot does :))
Title: well
Post by: Hades on 08 December, 2003, 02:24:44
ArchosWise does mostly all!
Can i add a bot op in 330 and does it work cause in my hub got to run cracked paured bai cuz tesdrive 4 doesnl support archos!
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Post by: ptaczek on 22 December, 2003, 14:22:41
QuoteOriginally posted by Intel
Why is it that always its only big hubs that get the bigger chances, what about us who have lets say +200 or +300 and cannot manage more than max 500 people ? give it some freedom guys, make it equal...

My point of view on things

Punnakku

You're taking it too much personally. As I said before everyone has the same options. Test whatever you want. Your effort is apreciated and needed.
With software it's almost the same as with any other product. In order to have a safe product at the end you have to test it under extreme conditions. Because the probability of failure is higher. You can drive your car on 25MPH all the time and everything's alright. Then you try it on 250MPH and you burn the wheels... And it was still the same car :)
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Post by: ptaczek on 22 December, 2003, 14:26:52
Testers are still needed. Im trying to reply on mails and PMs as soon as I get some time. Last PMing has took me abou 1.5 hour ;) So be patient and repeat your subscription if you are waiting more than say 14 days :o)

Thanx to everyone!
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Post by: pHaTTy on 22 December, 2003, 15:11:53
QuoteOriginally posted by ptaczek
QuoteOriginally posted by Intel
Why is it that always its only big hubs that get the bigger chances, what about us who have lets say +200 or +300 and cannot manage more than max 500 people ? give it some freedom guys, make it equal...

My point of view on things

Punnakku

You're taking it too much personally. As I said before everyone has the same options. Test whatever you want. Your effort is apreciated and needed.
With software it's almost the same as with any other product. In order to have a safe product at the end you have to test it under extreme conditions. Because the probability of failure is higher. You can drive your car on 25MPH all the time and everything's alright. Then you try it on 250MPH and you burn the wheels... And it was still the same car :)

damn nice example, but ever tryed a corner at that speed lol
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Post by: MetalQueen on 16 January, 2004, 08:28:02
Ptaczek you need some users sent to a beta test hub we can send some your way i am sure for your test :P Just let me know . Been away awhile . beta seemed to hold up when i was away :D WOOHOO!!