I noticed many hub owners are moving to Y-Hub by Yoshi. I have investigated this program and found some good points and bad points with Y-Hub but i will not get into these points here.
I have always been a proud supporter of PtokaX, but since i have seen the Y-Hub I have one question in my mind that is bugging me, this question may have been asked before and i have missed it...
When do you think PtokaX TD5 will be ready, I know it has been delayed and i am sure it will be delayed further due to certain circumstances. Also will PtokaX TD5 use less ram and cpu power just like Y-Hub.
I can see why many hub owners are moving to Y-Hub but i do not wish to move to Y-Hub as i will loose many features and characteristics in my hub that i have now thanx to PtokaX and many script writers...
Y-Hub does look a sufficient little program but i love PtokaX and i am concerned will i choose to move to Y-Hub sooner or later. Al i would like to know as the same with other members here is there any concerns for us to be worried about with PtokaX in comparisson with Y-Hub and if PtokaX TD5 will be ready soon and what will PtokaX TD5 have and won't have and any other info.
As I said before PtokaX is absolutely great cause the script gives character to a hub, also i would like to know if this is also true. If you have alot of scripts within your hub will this make the hub operate slower and cause some lagging. Also will this be the same for PtokaX TD5.
I apologise if this has been asked before, but i am concerned now after testing Y-Hub.
I hope my questions can be answered with the relivent answers and i hope it will all be good news too.
May PtokaX out live other hub softwares...
if you look in t his thread from time too time
you'll see that there lots of changes made and are in testing fase.
http://board.univ-angers.fr/thread.php?threadid=53&boardid=1&sid=bb0e17bb670b078f79885d55b0a83425&page=9
Flux,
first the bad news: there will be no TD5
now the good news: Im working on version 0.330 which has certain significant changes in the network core. First experiments with new core were done on this June but then the delay... :/
The 0.330 version will be also more carefull to the memory and the CPU. According to Romulus, new debug build of 0.330 with huge script and userstatistics is capable to handle more than 1100 users on P2/400MHz without lag and uses significantly less cpu than any previous version!
The 0.330 has modified buil-it checkers to feed the need for individual redirect for every checker, has better DC tag parsing algo, has added control of individual scripts...
Extensions in scripting subsystem are on the way and planned is also plug-in support.
But intensive testing before release is necessary because a lot of hubs uses ptokax now.
btw yep in regards to td5 if there is no td5 were are you taking us too? :o)
which direction are you pointing in?
what i mean is whats to come, the name?
Thanx [NL]Pur & ptaczek.
ptaczek that was what i wanted to hear. I know testing is very important till the public release of the next PtokaX release. It was just a major concern of mine after looking at Y-Hub and i really wanted to know and put my mind at rest about the next PtokaX release as i i don't want to move to Y-Hub.
I realize these releases do take time but now that i know there will be another release but not as TD5 i feel more relaxed knowing that my hub will soon be more better. I also wish i could be a tester but really i don't think i can plus i don't think my members will like me having the hub up and down several times a day hehehe.
Though I will keep my fingers crossed for you and your Beta Testers for a job well done for the next release. Also i gather the multi hub situation will be scrapped due i beloved friend amutex (I think that i remember his name hehehe) departure from the team.
Thanx again ptaczek for a quick response reply and i wish you all the luck for the release of the next version... :) :) :)
Hia:))
I was lurking around on a lot of hubs yesterday, havent been doing that 4 a while now. I was shocked about how many went over to Yhub:(
Z ya
ye ive noticed all they so called ptokax users, the ones they say ptokax rocks, its the best and then they turn there back and use YHub pis*** me right off :@
i feel so angry now brrrrrrrrr, wish i had not read this topic
i know the y-hub has come in a suprise. i knew about it a while ago but i didn't know it was such a hit. there has 2 be a site or something where all the users are finding out about the software and den downloading it. 1 reason for dem going 2 y-hub can be because the forum shut down and dey need scripts or help for their hubs as dey couldn't find alot/any they mush have went 2 y-hub. we have 2 get dem back to our software. somehow. :D
hmmm i didnt quite get that.........but yes anyways heehe ;)
I have the link for the official Y-Hub website i will share it with you, but remember i am sharing this with you for information purposes only and i am not entising you to download the material.
http://yhub.mine.nu/ (//Y-Hub%20Official%20Site)
:] :] :] :] :]
Hia again :))
We need moore of our "old" scripters back
Z ya
I am truly sick of seing peeps post links to YHub, peeps go chekc out the link then they try YHub then they dont come back to ptokax :(
STOP posting links to YHub there is already links to it in the forum
(uk-kingdom)pH?tt?
if you notice Y-Hub have links to this forum and also state that PtokaX is a very good software. i would not worry that much. Plus it would be nice if you ask properly instead of getting insulted of people posting links about Y-Hub for which I truly did not know this has been done before.
Also many people who use this software state in there hubs that they are testing. so i reckon when the next PtokaX release is available we will have members come back to PtokaX. there is not much worries really after ptaczek has given us a brief description of the next release of PtokaX.
PtokaX will always have it's dedicated followers so please don't be harsh of me or others sharing information and and links as i have seen links to us from Y-Hub so i think there is nothing to worry about, ok if members use Y-Hub let them be it's a free world but i am sure they will be back with us.
As i am still here cause there is no way that i will want to loose my hubs characteristics without PtokaX software and the love of the script writers..
I know you are trying to look after this forum which is very good, so i apologise for doing sharing a link for information purposes only, so if you want delete the link off the post as i was only using for information purposes to other members...
Sorry.. ;)
No its fine im not aiming it qat you, im just saying STOP out loud so peeps see it, and realise its already been linked to the YHub forum, so they dont post as well, i have seen the YHub link on about 10 threads so far, ive never been to the YHub forum, so i dont know about the links, im not intending on doing so, i also admit to testing YHub, but i wud never stop using ptokax, and im not gonna delete the link, means then someone else will come along and do the same lol ;)
l8rr,,
Ok mate hehehe.
I have tested this Y-Hub and for my opinion i don't really like it, as many PtokaX hubs have caracter and individuality especially with the scripts that are made for PtokaX. With Y-Hub it has inbuild commands but the all look and operate the same to me. I do like some percifics but these percifics will be implimented on the next PtokaX release.
So you and I and many others will certainly be looking forward to that special PtokaX release.
thats it from me till the next time we meet hehehe.
Take it easy all PtokaX users ;) ;)
Well thats all i think -- YHub sucks... even thou some ppl like it... before they get their hands on Ptoka ;)
Thats all folks
well until the new ptokax is released I had to setup a yhub to my friend...ptokax kept crashing...and it was the ICE Cube which is suppose to be a very stable release...and NMDC can't handle over 110 users...it was causing alot of lag...so what to do...TD4 has to many bugs....as I'm running TD4 myself I know..the hub goes down about 3-5 times a day....since he switched to yhub he has almost no CPU load from hub and no lag...and most important of all...no donkeys and no crashing....so until the new ptokax is finished it's a good substitute....yes I know Yhub makes U loose alot of the characteristics of the hub...but with good users in U don't need to script anything...I like ptokax of course...and I like to script...but TD4 has to many bugs...could be my system to since I'm running on a win2k3 server...but alot of my friends also has problems with TD4...so it came down to a few choices...run ptokax and loose users everytime it crashes...or NMDC and get lag...or Yhub none of the above...remember these r just my experiences from it...ppl can make up their own opinion about it by testing for themselves...it's a free world
Well why not use test drive 3 which is probably the most stable or try test drive 4 whihc i have no probs with :P
YHub.........Traitor lol joking ;)
good luck but you will get bored, ptokax rocks
if u lot add a game in ptokax 0.333 maybe ppl will come back on 2 it. it will make the hub more interesting. :D i bet every1 will like it.
TranceSwede: if your hub goes down 3-5x a day there is something wrong with your setup.
here most the op's restart it themself after 6-7 day's.
all the hub's used 2 run on xp but we changed the main hub 2 win 2k adv server, this because xp died and ptokax indeed started 2 crash.
this was a reall good move as we now can take more then 100 users more before the lag starts 2 show up.
the trick behind this is that i stripped nearly everything from windows wich isn't needed.
the less services you are running the more memory/resources are free for ptokax 2 be used the better it runs.
win 2k3 uses way more resources then 2k.
ptokax rocks big time, it's so boring without bot's making fun of us, or other funny remarks.
(!seen -Bure-, <-Bure-> I'm always here you fool ;))
specialy if users get confused and start thinking the bot is actualy human. lol
plop
Hmm YHub .. Well as their hub soft mentions.. Its for kids to play around.. I tried it , but i never liked their scripting interface.. No anti advertise bot nor any good scripts..
And out of all that, some crappy handshake timeouts.. Even though we have 1Gig line :p Its still a Beta version guys.. Ptokax is been rocking the DC community for ages and wil be.. I can surely say, I will be using Ptokax Till the end, no matter what new baby hub softs comes up.. Our Parent Hub soft (PtokaX) is there all the way with us ;)
Don't even bother comparing a good hub soft with a Beta hub softs :p
Always the Fan of Ptokax :D
Plop Win2k3 is way more fast then win2k and way better....I don't know where U got the idea that it would take more mem....it takes less mem then WinXP and just a little more then win2k....win2k3 fresh install takes about 80-90mb of mem....while win2k takes about the same om fresh install....I suggest U try it b4 U say something like that.....and turning off services...I'm no n00b if U think so...I'm actually a trained IT-Tech/Support...I have turned off all the services that can be turned off without causing system instability...
why ptokax is crashing for me I don't know...it gets mem crashes...although there's nothing physically wrong with my RAM...I suspect the donkeys has something to do with it...and I don't have a dedicated PC for this since at the moment I can't afford one...so am running it on my main PC....when the memcrash occurs I get a box with a warning...then no one can get into the hub....so I have to restart hubsoft...sometimes I have to restart whole pc for them to be able to get back in....which is really annoying....and for my m8 ptokax started to just shutdown by itself after about 3 hrs the icon just dissappeared and he had to start ptokax up again and then it all went over again....he's running on an XP system....and my other m8 who's on win2k and has a dedicated pc for it...the same thing occured for him....
QuoteOriginally posted by BlazeXxX
Hmm YHub .. Well as their hub soft mentions.. Its for kids to play around.. I tried it , but i never liked their scripting interface.. No anti advertise bot nor any good scripts..
And out of all that, some crappy handshake timeouts.. Even though we have 1Gig line :p Its still a Beta version guys.. Ptokax is been rocking the DC community for ages and wil be.. I can surely say, I will be using Ptokax Till the end, no matter what new baby hub softs comes up.. Our Parent Hub soft (PtokaX) is there all the way with us ;)
Don't even bother comparing a good hub soft with a Beta hub softs :p
Always the Fan of Ptokax :D
Hmmm what scripting interface?
ive not seen none, and no scripts neither, just visual bots...........
Lets face it pt 0.3.2.6 is NOT stable!!!
even i who realy loves scripting and ptokax is using YHub in some of my hubs, the reason is:
1. Its stable
2. It doesn't disconnect ppl at random
3. Its very resource friendly, cpu, mem...
But as soon as 0.3.3 is released public all my hubs will use it... (if it is stable enought)
right now i'm in the beta team, and i love it, but it has some time before the final release can be done..
but it is worth the time waiting.. promise :D
(uk-kingdom)pH?tt? : oops wrong word i used there :p
I meant the built in functions...
Skrollster: IceCube IV was way Better and I still use that cuz i can wait for the rest of the tiem for a better version soon... I would prefer waiting for Ptokax's next release than YHub's final version :) Wen it come sto final, u will end up with the same memory usuage and CPU .. lol .. :p
I stuck with NMDC for the longest time. It took quite a bit to get me to convert over totally to Ptokax. Now that I have, I will admit that it does significantly more than the NMDC hub did. I love scripts, I must have scripts. Yhub doesnt support scripts, so it doesnt support me. besides, I'm in no hurry to change over to another hub system (other than for ptokax upgrades), which I will do gladly so that my damn hub on my damn connection (1.5 down, 256K up) on my damn computer (1.2AMD Athalon, 384MB mem) will actually get me back up to the 200-250 users I believe in my own head I should be able to do. In short and sweet, I'm with ptokax, if they want someone to help beta test, I will help gladly, and evennn if not, I dont care, I DONT WANNA CHANGE HUB SOFTWARE AGAIN!
Thank you for your time to read my silly and ventful post, you may now resume your regulary scheduled lives.
?( I have no Idea why I just babbled like that. ?(
Hey friends, isn't that quite normal that ppl like a change? There is a new toy and ptokax is kind of old song. There were certain consequences few weeks/months ago and yhub has filled the gap. That's it. Yoshi is young agile coder. Im a little older man with a lot of incumbecies :) PtokaX continues with it's own tempo and will do so for as long as there will be some point of sense to do that.
well as long as im around there is always a point of continuing ;)
heheh :o)
ptaczak, tempos can increase and and a person can feel young when they r old. even though it is taken time, i will always be here. i have tried y-hub, nmdc etc.. but ptokax is better cause u can put ur own scripts in which is good especially when u wnat 2 add a game or soemthing. if u lot add a game 2 da software ppl might like it even more. :D
yo phatty i am wid u man. aslong as me and phatty is there is always a point continuing. ptokax will live 4 eva.
:D
hehhe yep, but yep there will alwyas be a point i will always get peeps using ptokax, all my network uses ptokax, and id kick them off if they used YHub, its ptokax only :o)
its ptokax all the way. yo phatty wat do u think of a game on ptokax. it will be phat. ptaczak should put it on. :D
(uk-kingdom)pH?tt? i have to say that you are very narrow minded... why don't you stick to the real original?? NMDCH????
with ptokax ppl dared to test new hubservers, that also means other new servers like YHub and DCH++ verlihub, etc.... and it was all thanks to ptokax at least imho...
competiton is good for development.. keep it up ptaczek..
im a n00b around here but i think the same as Skrollster ! when we have competition of some kind more ideas came to the paper and we can improve with new stuff and who knows?improve ptokax maybe?of course it will improve! im sure that ptaczek has is tricks under the sleeve! lets wait and see who rocks in tha end! im 500% faithful to ptokax! keep up the good work ptaczek! :)
xokas over&out
Skrollster: I don't beleive this is our old Skrollster... Must be someone else using his nick ?(
My Opinion:
I LOVE PtokaX, Yes!
But i prefer Y-Hub, Stable, Less CPU usage and memory.
Just face it, Y-hub is better than PtokaX at the moment.
2-3 months ago, Allmost all hubs had PtokaX.
Today, you would be very surprissed if you found one.
When PtokaX 0.3.3 is released, I won't doubt a second to try it, If it's better than Y-hub or equal to it
I'll change back to PtokaX.
Otherwise i'll stay with Y-hub.
QuoteOriginally posted by (uk-kingdom)pH?tt?
hehhe yep, but yep there will alwyas be a point i will always get peeps using ptokax, all my network uses ptokax, and id kick them off if they used YHub, its ptokax only :o)
Nice network you donnot have a free will there :D
QuoteOriginally posted by BlazeXxX
Skrollster: I don't beleive this is our old Skrollster... Must be someone else using his nick ?(
He is him, and have the good brain as always
i think that sometimes by some casualites people changes and even Skrollster is human and by that possible to change! i have experienced it in my personal life! just to say that people changes but they are like always, just a little change in they way to be!but hey that's life! :)
QuoteOriginally posted by xokas
i think that sometimes by some casualites people changes and even Skrollster is human and by that possible to change! i have experienced it in my personal life! just to say that people changes but they are like always, just a little change in they way to be!but hey that's life! :)
i even see it in xokas :baby:
Greets ac :evil:
AC i put ya in probation! :P :D don't ya mess with me :)
QuoteOriginally posted by BlazeXxX
Skrollster: I don't beleive this is our old Skrollster... Must be someone else using his nick ?(
I'm still the same old me.. not afraid of testing new possibilitys in life... and i can't spell now either...
if you want proof, sorry, can't give you any, not yet atleast, have a week or 15 before i can release Glory Securitaz 1.9 for pt 0.3.3.0 then you see it you will know that i'm the old Skrollster.. :)
Hehe.. Ok I am happy that your are still with us :D Was just curious where our clever Skrollster is gone :)
QuoteOriginally posted by ptaczek
...The 0.330 version will be also more carefull to the memory and the CPU. According to Romulus, new debug build of 0.330 with huge script and userstatistics is capable to handle more than 1100 users on P2/400MHz without lag and uses significantly less cpu than any previous version!...
WHOOOOWWWW !!!!
P2/400MHz ???? YOU RULEZ ptaczek !!!!
I can't wait for that version after the 4.99 dissapointment :o(
heh, me too ;) But for now, there are bugs that have to be killed ;)
Just one thing...
PtokaX Rulezzzz
Sure it has bugs and memory problems....
but HELLOO... please tell me a software bug free... :p
problem free....
one last thing (ok this makes two things...),
I really admire the work of ptaczek....
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK :p
just have to say this i agree with (uk-kingdom)pH?tt?
ptokax is the dc hub !!!
this hub can have its own mind in scripts
the yhub is a boring hubsoft no scripting no backbone !
i have a smal newbie hub just to start of simpel myselfe
a'lot of help in there say +newbie/+cmd/+so on...
cant do it in yhub no scripts in there.....
ptaczek, respect to you and all who help you developing this great software
ptokax rules( and i stil use it !)
Quoteye ive noticed all they so called ptokax users, the ones they say ptokax rocks, its the best and then they turn there back and use YHub pis*** me right off :@
i feel so angry now brrrrrrrrr, wish i had not read this topic
Well u can be as angry as u want. But i did move over to Y-hub becaus it never did get out a new version of PtokaX and the one that where out just did have alot of probb.
So if it will get out a new good version i will go over to PtokaX once again without a blink.
But i havent seen annything in the last 6 month and im still waiting
//Still A PtokX fan