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Stuff => Offtopic => Topic started by: imby on 13 July, 2004, 04:33:25

Title: dealing with persistant bad users
Post by: imby on 13 July, 2004, 04:33:25
what is your opinion to deal with the persistant assholes? i think every hub gets them and there doesn't seem to be any real way of dealing with them. Ip range bans are simply not an option when they're on the popular ISPs. what is left? flooding them? - and before you start whining i'm talking about the real bad users who seem to devote their time to irritating you. and know they can just reconnect and change their IP/Nick.
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Post by: blackwings on 13 July, 2004, 08:43:11
Well, if you are lucky, even if this "really bad" user have dynamic IP, he/she might have a static hostname, then you can with a firewall that is supporting hostname blocking, block this "bad" user. But once again, that is only if he has a static hostname.

And if you don't now how to get the host name, then I will tell you. Open up the cmd and type = nslookup

Anyway, I hope this will help you :)
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Post by: Snooze on 13 July, 2004, 12:50:36
I find that ignoring a person like that will make them move on after a few days ..

kicking, banning, flooding will only make then even more persistent ....


Snooze
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Post by: Vntalk on 26 July, 2004, 04:10:35
what if  PtokaX ban the Mac Address of the asshole's PC ?
Title: Banning mac :-)
Post by: Scanning on 26 July, 2004, 09:54:55
QuoteOriginally posted by Vntalk
what if  PtokaX ban the Mac Address of the asshole's PC ?

You can?t ban the Mac address with the hub software
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Post by: Corayzon on 26 July, 2004, 10:00:54
arnt mac address's only affective on local networks?
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Post by: plop on 26 July, 2004, 12:18:42
QuoteOriginally posted by Corayzon
arnt mac address's only affective on local networks?
they are used for a couple things like dhcp, but routers filter them.
if you own a router yourself the mac won't go thru it, and your isp has routers 2 where the mac of your router/nic is filtered.
the only way a hub would see it, is if both you and the hub are on the same local lan.

plop
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Post by: Pacman on 26 July, 2004, 17:55:19
changing the mac address of your puter is a waste of time when you could just use a proxy which takes about 20 secs to do.

banning an ip range wouldnt help either, since its easy to fake your ip.

your prolly best coding a prog that converts a list of proxies on a website into a peer guardian block list style layout or finding something similar that blocks proxy lists.
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Post by: Ruri_Ruri on 26 July, 2004, 20:08:20
If there's some-one strange in your neighbor-hub
Who ya gonna call?
TEAMELITE
If it's somethin' weird an it won't look good
Who ya gonna call?
TEAMELITE

:D
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Post by: [NL]Pur on 26 July, 2004, 20:17:42
Quotechanging the mac address of your puter is a waste of time when you could just use a proxy which takes about 20 secs to do.

banning an ip range wouldnt help either, since its easy to fake your ip.

your prolly best coding a prog that converts a list of proxies on a website into a peer guardian block list style layout or finding something similar that blocks proxy lists.

It is possible to probe any kind of proxy, so list won't really be needed ;)
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Post by: plop on 28 July, 2004, 01:24:23
open a command prompt and type "arp -a".
this shows all the mac addy's your computer knows for that moment.
you'll see that it only shows addy's from within your local lan.

the mac addy is  like a serial number for the network card, every ethernet device has a unique mac (except realtek, they build more chips then they buy mac's for).
every network has several layers, the mac is used on the highest level.
for example dhcp uses it, your compie sends out it's mac 2 the dhcp server (actualy it just sends it out on the network in the hope a dhcp server recieves it) and the server responds by sending a IP back 2 the mac addy.
without the mac the dhcp server wouldn't have any idea who requested the ip.
now you can see why isp's/routers filter these things, it would waste a lot of bandwidth if they wouldn't filter as it's totaly useless out on the inet.

plop