I was just wondering how i would compile my script so I can distribute my bot without it being stolen from me? ?(
define stolen , it can be decompiled and the i can get all the usable functions , so no need to compile it, share your work so others can learn from it.. i have only compiled mine during development when finished it will be released as source... but for debug pupose i have it like that..
and i know those compilers that are out aren't good and dont give you a working script when decompiled but most functions can be used ...
hi Typhoon
Quotedefine stolen
I think he means something like this...
found at this hub addy....
bbbchief.no-ip.com:666....
QuoteEsthetic Bot Ver 2.00c By ??????Chuckie?????? is Active.
type !cmds to display the bots commands
HA HA HA HA what a LOOSER....
hehe .. chuckie .. loOol ..
no disrespect meant Hawk..
how is about a little ol' failsafe in the compiling and making it not work if version is not set to exact right data ?? or even replacing it with the correct data on start up .. ??
;0)
I guess I should of compiled and obfuscated Jumble Fever which was taken for Esthetic Bot....
A name is nothing. Open your source, specially if you learned from others or reused their code.
From now on I'm including the GPL with my source :-P
-NotRabidWombat
heya NotRabidWombat :))
QuoteI guess I should of compiled and obfuscated Jumble Fever which was taken for Esthetic Bot....
Please feel free to d/l and click the credits button on the gui ..
there is a list of names including yours for the code ive used. I have never tried to take credit for anything i havn't created. Before the gui all the credits were in the readme.txt file i sent out with it.
But what Chuckie did is try to take credit for the whole thing..
i have on the newer versions ( unreleased atm ) changed the wording of the log in message ,so it dosnt confuse other scripters (whose code i have used) in to thinking im trying to take their credit ..
QuoteTherapy-Xthetic Ver 1.03-Beta GameServer compiled By ??????Hawk?????? is Active.
regarding jumble .. if you run esthetic bot you will find that it is quite different now i.e
3 hints instead of 1.
word countdown
game end on set ammount of words
display hall of fame on game end
mass message to all users on game start
Ops only controll
user definable word list by hub command
and a few other things...
i really cant see what you hang up on me using jumble as a base for the anagram game in esthetic bot..
if you didnt want the code to be used/changed then you shouldnt have released the source..
QuoteOriginally posted by ??????Hawk??????
heya NotRabidWombat :))
QuoteI guess I should of compiled and obfuscated Jumble Fever which was taken for Esthetic Bot....
Please feel free to d/l and click the credits button on the gui ..
there is a list of names including yours for the code ive used. I have never tried to take credit for anything i havn't created. Before the gui all the credits were in the readme.txt file i sent out with it.
Please read my entire post.
A name is nothing. Open your source, specially if you learned from others or reused their code. How do you expect others to learn like you if you do not follow the example of open source?
QuoteOriginally posted by ??????Hawk??????
regarding jumble .. if you run esthetic bot you will find that it is quite different now i.e
3 hints instead of 1.
word countdown
game end on set ammount of words
display hall of fame on game end
These are all esthetic changes; not too difficult. I ignored the last three since they already existed in the second version. They are hardly justification for hiding source.
QuoteOriginally posted by ??????Hawk??????
i really cant see what you hang up on me using jumble as a base for the anagram game in esthetic bot..
if you didnt want the code to be used/changed then you shouldnt have released the source..
I am not hung up on you using my code. I am hung up with you compiling your code. As you can see from Chuckie's example, compiling code will not protect credits. So compiling will only hinder rather than help.
That's all for today kids. In the meantime, read the GPL (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html) and start copylefting.
-NotRabidWombat
I wouldnt wanna hurt anyone here but I think that not anyones ideals and ethics are everyone's ideals and ethics ...
"I wouldnt wanna hurt anyone here but I think that not anyones ideals and ethics are everyone's ideals and ethics ..."
Comment on my statements. Cliches regarding ethics to end the debate are useless. I am still waiting for a valid reason to compile without including the source.
Mutor,
"I would beleive its somewhat more efficient to compile script, as it saves the hubsoft that chore."
Sure, compile away. It will save time at loading. However, that is no excuse not to include source code.
" In any case I beleive it's the authors choice to compile their script."
You are correct. The author may choose to compile or not. However, it will no longer be a choice to exclude source of any code I author.
"After all, we are scripting for Ptokax and it's not open source"
So if you write code in Windows, it shouldn't ever be open source? That does not make any sense.
I guess you can call me naive for believing that my gesture of good will would result in others acting the same.
-NotRabidWombat
I thought you were implying that the lua scripts shouldn't be open source since PtokaX was not open source itself. My anology should make more sense now.
I give up. Make your choice.
-NotRabidWombat
QuoteOriginally posted by NotRabidWombat
"I wouldnt wanna hurt anyone here but I think that not anyones ideals and ethics are everyone's ideals and ethics ..."
Comment on my statements. Cliches regarding ethics to end the debate are useless. I am still waiting for a valid reason to compile without including the source.
NotRambitWomnat, I hoped that I had expressed my continious respect on your knowledge about lua and your overall education.
In no way that post of mine was aiming to you or anyone else in a personal way ...
If I were to comment on your words I would quote like this .
I dont want to be a guy that shows disrespect especially to ppl that show me some and moreover help me to achieve stuff by sharing their knowledge.
Note: I have never compiled and never will ...
That comment on the thread by me was made because I hate seeing ppl of this wonderfull forum getting to a bad end of an encounter.
I apologise if this was bad in any way ..
QuoteYou are correct. The author may choose to compile or not. However, it will no longer be a choice to exclude source of any code I author.
HA HA HA HA HA
have a look at Ptokax and what its used for. .......
the sharing of copywrited and none copywrited material..
You really think that anyone wanting to use some of your code is going to follow the ruling of the GPL ??? ..
WAKE UP m8 your in the real world now not in some idealic fantasy world..
if you want source code then approach ppl in the correct manner and most will have no problems giving it ...
esthetic bot has no special code in it at all the main reason for compiling is so i dont spend all my time in here mending a Broken bot for bad editing.....
A little humility is in place here, I think.
Without the script gurus in here, (And we know who these are, dont we? ;)) the rest of us would be nothing.
Think if they only deliver script wich were compiled, no one ever have learned how to script in this forum.
I know I wouldnt.
Hehe, I'm still a wannabie. :))
I'm totally with you RambidWombat.
And I'm very thankful to all script gurus who's sharing your knowledge to all.
this thread makes only someone more eager to create a better lua decompiler.
Totally agree with [NL]Pur and Wombat ..
my current "developer" version is compilet , but will be opensource when i am done adding stuff, i just dont have the time right now to fix it on a bad edit , like hawk was pointing to, the best way i have seen compiled script was when Skrolster and Phatty released a dual version compiled and uncompiled...
and its onky leading to a flawless decompiler like Pur said... and with the current you can still rip most functions if they are to any use to you...
well i've been playing around with LuaC for a couple of weeks now, and if i compile a script with : "luac -s scriptname" (iE deletes all debug stuff) i cant decompile it again with basic routines.
Just as a small little info :)
my opinion is that if compiled scripts is made by all scripters
eventually would make this forum to slowly die out
but no one can force anyone to share thier work
not much to fuzz about really
no matter what the purpose of making these scripts
i think that there got to be a "code of moral even between thiefs"
keep a stiff upper lip =)
Hi,
There is no problem in compiling scripts, if the source code is avaible as also.
Best regards, nErBoS
thats what i think...i would prefer to have a compiled script that works + the uncompiled source.
That way i can be sure that the script was running at te time of release.
if a script has many english parts posted 2 main then someone will jump on it and translate, but if he does not know what \r\n means it can cause a real stuffin up, so this may be one reason ppl compile their scripts and make a language file instead... with jumble easy 2 translate, rabid is way beyond others :P
but think of people like me whose main "profile" is not scriptin g or perfectly learning any kind of programming language, i will suck enough with php and planing some other too...
im not afraid of that others will steal my code from my script cause i know im a n00b scripter (scripter?)... and it was a challenge for me to grab ideas from a COMPILED script like Artificial Insanety.... so compiling is fun in some way, for me at least.
and i released the fullcode from you rabidwombat, at least in 2 scripts. so i feel clean now :P
compiling is a way 2 avoid trouble. this can be understood... if you made a script on request, you would see what people are capable of ;) (sorry this was rude)
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and 1mo thing:
until now i thought scripters are FOR each other, not AGAINST. Im looking forward to seeing a script using part of my code =) - dont want to bruise my childish dream please!
:))
QuoteOriginally posted by bastya_elvtars
.... Im looking forward to seeing a script using part of my code =) - dont want to bruise my childish dream please!
:))
Well as a matter of fact i could use your myinfo scanner from lawmaker
just havent a clue how to strip the scanning part only ^^