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Title: prosecuters out in force!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Tw?sT?d-d?v on 16 January, 2005, 16:02:55
Hi all, Not sure if this is the right place to post this....

I  have just recived a message of another hub owner saying that hubs are shuting down cause prosecuters are out in force!!!!!!!!!      

Does anyone have any more info on this please.....
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Post by: Herodes on 16 January, 2005, 16:09:55
Get Protected and stop nagging (http://www.bluetack.co.uk/index.php) just a friendly advice ;)
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Post by: n1ck on 16 January, 2005, 17:18:22
That ole chestnut - it happens every week lol. As far as the UK it ISNT illegal to run a hub! share files yes, running a hub no! Just dont keep files on your hub machine!!
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Post by: blackwings on 16 January, 2005, 18:50:24
QuoteOriginally posted by n1ck
That ole chestnut - it happens every week lol. As far as the UK it ISNT illegal to run a hub! share files yes, running a hub no! Just dont keep files on your hub machine!!
Anyone know how it's in Sweden? Is it illegal to just run a hub?

@(uk)jay:  Some people says there are going to be raids this month and some says it's just paranoia. I'm not really sure if this romur is true or false >_<
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Post by: n1ck on 16 January, 2005, 19:53:44
i cant honestly see how it is illegal anywhere, you can transfer files through yahoo messenger, but i doubt yahoo is illegal!
 As long as you dont keep files on the hub machine you arent doing anything wrong!
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Post by: imby on 16 January, 2005, 23:19:20
and aslong as the users in the hub share nothing 'commercial' to. The RIAA and their ilk are bound to threaten hub owners with legal action if you do not cease the hub. Hub owners are easy targets after all. Think about it, it would only take legal action to the hub owners of the top 10 hubs to take a massive amount of DC out. Easy to get the hub IP, and hub owners are ordinary people like you and i, they'll most likely cave in.

Anyway, what's with this protowall? can i use it with my existing firewall? i doubt it's more secure as a general firewall than Sygate Pro?
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Post by: [PT]CableGuy on 16 January, 2005, 23:51:54
Can you imagine , shutting-down all IRC servers ? After all , you can download files between irc users. :]
About ProtoWall , i advise you to use it , like an "add-on" to you're firewall , since it updates regularly the IPs of "unwanted users".
Ver nice "proggy". ;)
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Post by: n1ck on 17 January, 2005, 02:17:46
I use sygate too, however to make sure you have all the nasty ips blocked protowall is the proggy for you!
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Post by: blackwings on 17 January, 2005, 02:56:24
QuoteOriginally posted by n1ck
I use sygate too, however to make sure you have all the nasty ips blocked protowall is the proggy for you!
I use PG Lite ^^
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Post by: TecMaster on 17 January, 2005, 07:09:42
Blackwings check this link, section "Peer 2 Peer och fildelning"

http://www.piratbyran.org/?view=articles&cat=6
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Post by: blackwings on 17 January, 2005, 12:29:42
QuoteOriginally posted by TecMaster
Blackwings check this link, section "Peer 2 Peer och fildelning"

http://www.piratbyran.org/?view=articles&cat=6
Hmm, the laws seems to be pretty the same as before. And if I understand it right, I think it's legal to run a hub (and not shareing anything on the server)
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Post by: QuikThinker on 17 January, 2005, 14:03:05
lol can any1 translate that link in 2 English?  :D
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Post by: Tw?sT?d-d?v on 17 January, 2005, 19:59:57
Hi all,  thx for all ur feedback.......

If u cant tell i'm new to all this so trying to get as much info on things as i can :))))
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 17 January, 2005, 20:57:06
use the protowall on your server. no packets will be received from/sent to the owner of the blacklisted IP.
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Post by: n1ck on 25 January, 2005, 02:13:52
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4190581.stm

^^ a little news on this thread
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Post by: Jitway on 25 January, 2005, 02:35:31
This is why you run private hubs. :D
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Post by: TecMaster on 25 January, 2005, 07:10:24
Your not safe even if you run a private hub...
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Post by: n1ck on 25 January, 2005, 09:43:22
i still believe that you can run a public hub if you dont keep files on the hub pc. Of course if im wrong you guys will bail me out right? right? lol
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Post by: TecMaster on 25 January, 2005, 12:52:25
Ofcorse ... or ... ;-)
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Post by: Meka][Meka on 25 January, 2005, 15:12:46
ppl dont panic, its rumours, its not illegal in anyway to run a hub, unless ur encouraging fileshare, ie in motd, u must share 15gig of films < then u can be done, else if u have something like, admins are not resonsible for what you share, they are agreeing, u are not breaking the law in any way ;)

the law protects ppl that run servers, they protect search engines too, if u search google for warez u will find it, but they cant be posecuted because they are protected by law, they did not submiut it, jus like u did not put them files ther for ppl to download

-/Meka][Meka
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Post by: (uk-kingdom)John on 27 January, 2005, 02:39:51
thats the reason when i run my hub i have no share limits on it, only mldc clients get kicked...
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Post by: [NL]Pur on 27 January, 2005, 11:46:03
i don't see what share limit has to do with it, it's easy to share a legal 10gig
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Post by: [UK]Madman on 27 January, 2005, 13:43:31
I'd say you would cause more trouble by kicking for bad files (like porn or temps, etc)

This is removing unwanted content in your hub and showing you are controlling what is being shared, so your blocking temps, but not files with possible copyright infringments.....
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Post by: [NL]Pur on 27 January, 2005, 14:54:10
not really , and dctmp file is easy to identify,

but no man can identify if a file is legal or illigal. did you see it coming with a license?
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Post by: (uk-kingdom)John on 27 January, 2005, 16:24:30
QuoteOriginally posted by [NL]Pur
i don't see what share limit has to do with it, it's easy to share a legal 10gig

yea it might be easy to share a legal 10gig like i share about 12gig of linux isos but thats not the way riaa etc see it, like the way they said udgnet was forcing users to share a certain amount of files to get into hubs..
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Post by: [UK]Madman on 27 January, 2005, 16:50:25
QuoteOriginally posted by [NL]Pur
not really , and dctmp file is easy to identify,

but no man can identify if a file is legal or illigal. did you see it coming with a license?

Valid point, temps isnt the best of examples.  

However, if you are removing ppl from your hub for sharing a certain file type (e.g. porn), you are showing that you are checking the content of your hub, and have the ability to stop a great deal of infringment (maybe not all but I think if you see a movie thats not on general release we can assume you shouldnt legally have it?)