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Title: PM Spy
Post by: the_pest on 01 March, 2005, 18:37:35

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*removed* -/Pha

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Post by: (uk-kingdom)John on 01 March, 2005, 19:32:46

why would anyone want a pm spy? thats lame.

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Post by: pHaTTy on 02 March, 2005, 22:50:34

may be a way of learning, but please find other scripts to code, and dont spy on ppls 'private' messages

-/pha

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Post by: Pr?sten on 20 April, 2005, 02:34:38

I Would like to have a pm spy, becuse sometimes i suspect advertisers... good to be sure first..

Thanks

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Post by: blackwings on 20 April, 2005, 02:45:43

QuoteOriginally posted by Pr?sten
I Would like to have a pm spy, becuse sometimes i suspect advertisers... good to be sure first..

Thanks

then get a anti advertise script

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Post by: Rulle on 20 April, 2005, 02:47:00

It can for this be use: Robo-cop or Guarding for exemple.
Witch I guess you al ready have :)
Of course, nothing is 100% safe, but if you can not trust your users - then ho can you trust in this world....

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Post by: Pr?sten on 20 April, 2005, 17:22:43

QuoteOriginally posted by blackwings
QuoteOriginally posted by Pr?sten
I Would like to have a pm spy, becuse sometimes i suspect advertisers... good to be sure first..

Thanks
then get a anti advertise script

I can?t have that becuse some users whit my promission are allowed to send advertise in pm.. but not all, thats why i whant it

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Post by: plop on 20 April, 2005, 22:01:12

QuoteOriginally posted by Pr?sten
QuoteOriginally posted by blackwings
QuoteOriginally posted by Pr?sten
I Would like to have a pm spy, becuse sometimes i suspect advertisers... good to be sure first..

Thanks
then get a anti advertise script

I can?t have that becuse some users whit my promission are allowed to send advertise in pm.. but not all, thats why i whant it

thats why anti adverting scripts have settings so you can decide which profiles should be filtered.
there is no excuse 2 use a pm spy.

plop

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Post by: imby on 21 April, 2005, 00:42:28

QuoteOriginally posted by plop
QuoteOriginally posted by Pr?sten
QuoteOriginally posted by blackwings
QuoteOriginally posted by Pr?sten
I Would like to have a pm spy, becuse sometimes i suspect advertisers... good to be sure first..

Thanks
then get a anti advertise script

I can?t have that becuse some users whit my promission are allowed to send advertise in pm.. but not all, thats why i whant it
thats why anti adverting scripts have settings so you can decide which profiles should be filtered.
there is no excuse 2 use a pm spy.

plop

I've found one use: If i get a report of a disconnection, I put a watch on both the users involved, and often they'll be having a discussion, and one will incriminate himself, by saying something like, 'only one album at atime, and there's nothing you can do about it'. then i ban the stingy leeching arsehole :) i do suspect those desperate for this kind of script are the nosey ones who will abuse it.

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Post by: Pothead on 21 April, 2005, 00:49:04

Havn't seen a Anti Advertise script which does what i want yet :S On detected advertisement in PM, it gives say the last 5 lines of the converstation, so you can see the context of the advertisement. If it's someone helping someone, there is no need to kick them. :) So until i find one, i'll just keep all advertisement checks turned off. :)

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Post by: plop on 21 April, 2005, 19:03:24

my sneaky anti adver script uses a different method.
it searches for url's, if found it checks if you say it's a good site, if not it replaces it for the url you pick.
for example the url 2 your own website from the hub.
no disconnect involved, and the advertiser suddenly works for you.

plop

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Post by: Stravides on 23 April, 2005, 02:29:06

well I run a D&D Gaming hub and its as realtime as you can get via chat - The DM should know everything and whilst PM's are not prohibited they need to be seen by the DM...

Code Select

This is also removed due to censorship

This is also in the MOTD on the hub that ALL PM's are sent via the DM and there are no secrets on the hub

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Post by: kepp on 23 April, 2005, 09:07:15

lame

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Post by: jiten on 23 April, 2005, 10:33:12

Indeed...

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Post by: Pothead on 23 April, 2005, 10:58:38

QuoteOriginally posted by plop
my sneaky anti adver script uses a different method.
it searches for url's, if found it checks if you say it's a good site, if not it replaces it for the url you pick.
for example the url 2 your own website from the hub.
no disconnect involved, and the advertiser suddenly works for you.

plop

Nice. :) Personally i don't care about URL's being advertised, and i don't mind people advertising hubs, as long as they are helping people, and not trying to leech users. :)

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Post by: Stravides on 24 April, 2005, 23:29:06

Quotethats why anti adverting scripts have settings so you can decide which profiles should be filtered.
there is no excuse 2 use a pm spy.

plop

Quotekepp

lame

Quotejiten

Indeed...

I run Online dungeons and gragons thru one of my hubs and as stated before - I use this PM spy to check the players are playing fair and not trying to go out of bounds with knowledge transfer that their characters would not know ie asking other users for assistance when they would not be otherwise able to get the help in the real world.

hence a pm spy is used and is advertised as such in the MOTD - as far as kepp and jiten's comment go, I do not give a flying about what you think of the code or its usage - it was asked for and therefore I coded as such.. If we just decide to help those coders we agree with here what is the point of this forum..

for christ sake come down from your ivory towers and get with the real world... Ok so you know how to code... you say you want to help others .. do so...

[rant over]

Having said that this forum would not be what it is without the excellent coding of these individuals...

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Post by: jiten on 25 April, 2005, 14:49:17

QuoteOriginally posted by Stravides
I run Online dungeons and gragons thru one of my hubs and as stated before - I use this PM spy to check the players are playing fair and not trying to go out of bounds with knowledge transfer that their characters would not know ie asking other users for assistance when they would not be otherwise able to get the help in the real world.

hence a pm spy is used and is advertised as such in the MOTD - as far as kepp and jiten's comment go, I do not give a flying about what you think of the code or its usage - it was asked for and therefore I coded as such.. If we just decide to help those coders we agree with here what is the point of this forum..

for christ sake come down from your ivory towers and get with the real world... Ok so you know how to code... you say you want to help others .. do so...

[rant over]

Having said that this forum would not be what it is without the excellent coding of these individuals...

Stravides, it has nothing to do with being in an ivory tower, as I'm not that kinda guy and if I'm here, it's because I like helping.
But, everyone has its own likes and dislikes and I personally don't agree with PM spying and that's why I agreed with what kepp said.
Just to mention, the way u explained what the script was for in this post is very clear and the other one wasn't. If it wasn't for it, I wouldn't have commented the script posted.

Best regards.

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 15:22:49

QuoteOriginally posted by jiten
QuoteOriginally posted by Stravides
I run Online dungeons and gragons thru one of my hubs and as stated before - I use this PM spy to check the players are playing fair and not trying to go out of bounds with knowledge transfer that their characters would not know ie asking other users for assistance when they would not be otherwise able to get the help in the real world.

hence a pm spy is used and is advertised as such in the MOTD - as far as kepp and jiten's comment go, I do not give a flying about what you think of the code or its usage - it was asked for and therefore I coded as such.. If we just decide to help those coders we agree with here what is the point of this forum..

for christ sake come down from your ivory towers and get with the real world... Ok so you know how to code... you say you want to help others .. do so...

[rant over]

Having said that this forum would not be what it is without the excellent coding of these individuals...
Stravides, it has nothing to do with being in an ivory tower, as I'm not that kinda guy and if I'm here, it's because I like helping.
But, everyone has its own likes and dislikes and I personally don't agree with PM spying and that's why I agreed with what kepp said.
Just to mention, the way u explained what the script was for in this post is very clear and the other one wasn't. If it wasn't for it, I wouldn't have commented the script posted.

Best regards.

jiten.. you're very stupid ;)

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 15:24:54

Quote
Code Select Expand
This is also removed due to censorship This is also in the MOTD on the hub that ALL PM's are sent via the DM and there are no secrets on the hub

It Is INJUSTICE

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 15:39:47

In Direct Connect don't exist law on the privacy so I do not find condemn script of the Stravides... it is a script like all the others .... see you later ;)

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Post by: Stravides on 25 April, 2005, 15:49:02

Quote[rant over]
Having said that this forum would not be what it is without the excellent coding of these individuals...

Firstly - I attacked the comments not the people to call jiten stupid is so far off the mark thats just laughable...

as I stated in my comment I have great respect for these coders, but found their comments to me unfair..

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 15:55:32

I repeat:

in Direct Connect doesn't exist any privacy law therefore I don't consider fair blaming the Stravides script...It is a script as others...Examine your own conscience..See Ya next time

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Post by: Madman on 25 April, 2005, 15:59:51

QuoteOriginally posted by 6Marilyn6Manson6
I repeat:

in Direct Connect doesn't exist any privacy law therefore I don't consider fair blaming the Stravides script...It is a script as others...Examine your own conscience..See Ya next time

It's common sense... PM = PRIVATE MESSAGE

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Post by: Dessamator on 25 April, 2005, 16:13:58

ok then stravides and everybody else, would u like it if the users saw all ur pvt conversations?, if u do, then enable the command for all users, dont leave it only for the OPs,
if u dont want ppl to have pvts in ur hub just disable it through scripting that would solve that prob,

otherwise ur just being nonsensical !!

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Post by: jiten on 25 April, 2005, 16:23:19

Marylin, I just stated my personal opinion about PM Spying. If u don't like it, it's up to u.

PS: That "stupid" comment of urs was hilarious. Have u seen the "wanna be hacker" thread? It almost made me laugh that much... Btw, why treble posting?

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 16:37:15

QuoteOriginally posted by jiten
Marylin, I just stated my personal opinion about PM Spying. If u don't like it, it's up to u.

PS: That "stupid" comment of urs was hilarious. Have u seen the "wanna be hacker" thread? It almost made me laugh that much... Btw, why treble posting?

Marilyn not Marylin ;)

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 16:38:44

QuoteOriginally posted by jiten
Marylin, I just stated my personal opinion about PM Spying. If u don't like it, it's up to u.

PS: That "stupid" comment of urs was hilarious. Have u seen the "wanna be hacker" thread? It almost made me laugh that much... Btw, why treble posting?

PM SPY is original Made of NightLitch but... when NightLitch made it...... no one has done polemic ;)

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 16:39:20

QuoteOriginally posted by madman
QuoteOriginally posted by 6Marilyn6Manson6
I repeat:

in Direct Connect doesn't exist any privacy law therefore I don't consider fair blaming the Stravides script...It is a script as others...Examine your own conscience..See Ya next time

It's common sense... PM = PRIVATE MESSAGE

Here Not Exist LAW OF PRIVACY

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Post by: Dessamator on 25 April, 2005, 17:55:44

QuoteOriginally posted by 6Marilyn6Manson6
QuoteOriginally posted by madman
QuoteOriginally posted by 6Marilyn6Manson6
I repeat:

in Direct Connect doesn't exist any privacy law therefore I don't consider fair blaming the Stravides script...It is a script as others...Examine your own conscience..See Ya next time

It's common sense... PM = PRIVATE MESSAGE

Here Not Exist LAW OF PRIVACY

ok then, u want to talk about laws, why are u using dc, its against the law to download copyrighted materials, so why are u doing it, "stupidity"?

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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 25 April, 2005, 18:15:07

Quoteits against the law to download copyrighted materials

Only in U. S.

-- // edit

What is the sense of spying privmessages again? Because I still cannot see it clearly.

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 18:18:25

QuoteOriginally posted by bastya_elvtars
Quoteits against the law to download copyrighted materials

Only in U. S.

Not only in U.S.... idem in Italy ;)

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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 25 April, 2005, 18:30:05

1) SHARING is illegal, not downloading. Think before speaking (if possible in this thread).

2) OK, I read the thread again, and about advertisers: if you have capabilities to review all PMs then hats off to you... otherwise adv filtering CAN be done through script as accurately as human power. You are talking of ivory towers, while YOU are who are in ivory towers.

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 18:40:14

QuoteOriginally posted by bastya_elvtars
1) SHARING is illegal, not downloading. Think before speaking (if possible in this thread).

2) OK, I read the thread again, and about advertisers: if you have capabilities to review all PMs then hats off to you... otherwise adv filtering CAN be done through script as accurately as human power. You are talking of ivory towers, while YOU are who are in ivory towers.

Bastya.. I don't want this script because I use YnHUB ;).... I've just supported Stravides' script 'cause I consider it legal....we're here for chatting, and not for polemics ;)

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Post by: Dessamator on 25 April, 2005, 18:44:25

QuoteOriginally posted by bastya_elvtars
1) SHARING is illegal, not downloading. Think before speaking (if possible in this thread).

2) OK, I read the thread again, and about advertisers: if you have capabilities to review all PMs then hats off to you... otherwise adv filtering CAN be done through script as accurately as human power. You are talking of ivory towers, while YOU are who are in ivory towers.

indeed, i meant sharing , :D

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Post by: DEEP-GOA on 25 April, 2005, 19:01:36

Quote....we're here for chatting, and not for polemics ;)

....we're here for chatting, and not for downloading ;)

....and,, tell me ur ip,, i wanna hack u! ;)

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 19:36:45

Quote....and,, tell me ur ip,, i wanna hack u! ;)

ahahahah you're funny :D

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Post by: Stravides on 25 April, 2005, 19:58:24

QuoteOriginally posted by Dessamator
ok then stravides and everybody else, would u like it if the users saw all ur pvt conversations?, if u do, then enable the command for all users, dont leave it only for the OPs,
if u dont want ppl to have pvts in ur hub just disable it through scripting that would solve that prob,

otherwise ur just being nonsensical !!

Quite.... Again you miss the point...

I have explained the usage of my pm detector - and there is, in my case a requirement to send pm's to the user therefore to remove PM's is not really practical.

Same way as other coders have placed a "no chat for unregged users"... well isnt that against the right to free speech ??

I personally do not care about using PM's only reason I use it is to direct to a particular user so they definately see it... so I dont mind anyone seeing them..

As I said in one of your other comment Dessamator... less attitude, more help please.

Again if you read the comments I have placed, I do not hold with the comments that other people are making here. Attack the problem not the people !

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 25 April, 2005, 20:01:37

QuoteOriginally posted by Stravides
QuoteOriginally posted by Dessamator
ok then stravides and everybody else, would u like it if the users saw all ur pvt conversations?, if u do, then enable the command for all users, dont leave it only for the OPs,
if u dont want ppl to have pvts in ur hub just disable it through scripting that would solve that prob,

otherwise ur just being nonsensical !!

Quite.... Again you miss the point...

I have explained the usage of my pm detector - and there is, in my case a requirement to send pm's to the user therefore to remove PM's is not really practical.

Same way as other coders have placed a "no chat for unregged users"... well isnt that against the right to free speech ??

I personally do not care about using PM's only reason I use it is to direct to a particular user so they definately see it... so I dont mind anyone seeing them..

As I said in one of your other comment Dessamator... less attitude, more help please.

Again if you read the comments I have placed, I do not hold with the comments that other people are making here. Attack the problem not the people !

Stravides FOREVER... I'm with you ;) go go goooooooo

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Post by: Dessamator on 25 April, 2005, 20:22:33

QuoteOriginally posted by Stravides
QuoteOriginally posted by Dessamator
ok then stravides and everybody else, would u like it if the users saw all ur pvt conversations?, if u do, then enable the command for all users, dont leave it only for the OPs,
if u dont want ppl to have pvts in ur hub just disable it through scripting that would solve that prob,

otherwise ur just being nonsensical !!

Quite.... Again you miss the point...

I have explained the usage of my pm detector - and there is, in my case a requirement to send pm's to the user therefore to remove PM's is not really practical.

Same way as other coders have placed a "no chat for unregged users"... well isnt that against the right to free speech ??

I personally do not care about using PM's only reason I use it is to direct to a particular user so they definately see it... so I dont mind anyone seeing them..

As I said in one of your other comment Dessamator... less attitude, more help please.

Again if you read the comments I have placed, I do not hold with the comments that other people are making here. Attack the problem not the people !

ur usage might have merit, the prob is that script will be used mostly for spying on other ppl conversation, its much better just to use trigs, rather than keep snooping, but hey thats just me way of seeing it, mayb im wrong !

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Post by: Stravides on 25 April, 2005, 20:38:17

I see all of these points ....
I agree with the possible misuse factor - but then again theres that with all coding after all the trivia might lead to a group of know it alls that take over the government hehehehe unlikely as 1st rule of a politician is to book the labotomy....

Again the problem is not the coding its the derogatory commentary associated with such...

ANYWAYS..... As the french like to say
an egg is a nine or "an oeuf is a neuf" leave the bickering to the children

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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 25 April, 2005, 21:16:43

QuoteOriginally posted by Stravides
other coders have placed a "no chat for unregged users"... well isnt that against the right to free speech ??

1) Now you see why I do not code such tools.

2) Mute should be considered as illegal then.

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Post by: Herodes on 25 April, 2005, 21:18:56

beware of the difference between the phrases:
against common sense
illegal act

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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 25 April, 2005, 21:29:57

QuoteOriginally posted by Herodes
beware of the difference between the phrases:
against common sense
illegal act

I have just obtained a master level (medical) english language exam, I know the difference. :P

I just wanted to use their words. I dislike these ideas very much, and sometimes I am wondering what people wanna bring out of a centralized p2p network... I just keep repeating myself: DC (not ++!) is not what it used to be a year ago... and this is not my single opinion.

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Post by: Stravides on 25 April, 2005, 21:42:00

I take it that enough wasnt enough then :)

I was just pointing out *sarcastically* that there are ways and means of twisting meanings or misquoting to ones own end.. it's really irrelevant what the usages are for these code snippets - if you visit the persons hub thats a different matter, but unless you do - wheres the harm..

we all want different things from our hubs - if we didnt we'd just use one of the monoliths that are out there..

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Post by: kepp on 25 April, 2005, 21:51:03

Stravides, I personally don't care what sort of hub you are running, WHY you spy on your users and so forth..
that is not my problem....
My problem is that it is being posted at this forum.
There is absolutely nothing wrong in making such a script
just as it is not wrong to make a hub-flooder but here comes the BUT, only for learning & private use, no public sharing,
and that is unfortunatelly just what you did for a while :(

Stravides:
If you want to help a user by giving him his request of a
PM-Spy bot, you should have written the script in a PRIVATE
message to that user, thereby PRIVATE and this conversation would never have taken place.
I hope you've learned from this misstake and if not search
for other requests of such bots and look at the answers.

OK; nuff said for me, BE NICE on eachother :D

// Kepp

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Post by: Stravides on 25 April, 2005, 22:22:35

QuoteOriginally posted by kepp

1. Stravides, I personally don't care what sort of hub you are running, WHY you spy on your users and so forth..
that is not my problem....
My problem is that it is being posted at this forum.

2. If you want to help a user by giving him his request of a PM-Spy bot, you should have written the script in a PRIVATE message to that user, thereby PRIVATE and this conversation would never have taken place.

3. I hope you've learned from this misstake and if not search for other requests of such bots and look at the answers.

4. OK; nuff said for me, BE NICE on eachother :D

// Kepp

1. You are entitled to your point of view, but then again i still cannot see why its a problem to you..

2. So this forum is now to be renamed "LUAScripts the PtokaX APPROVED script resource" then is it ?

3. I'm an old dog I'm afraid... ;) but will try to learn from the experience

4. Again as I think i've said before it was your comment that fueled this discussion. So if you want to say "OK; nuff said for me, BE NICE on each other" try not to start the conversation with the thread "lame".. I thought I was being nice.... its that marilyn chap thats the rebel rouser hehehe

regards
Stravvie

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Post by: uffetjur on 25 April, 2005, 22:31:05

theres always an option in robocop to add "safe advertise" links so that wouldnt be a problem

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Post by: kepp on 25 April, 2005, 22:31:17

QuoteOriginally posted by Stravides
QuoteOriginally posted by kepp

1. Stravides, I personally don't care what sort of hub you are running, WHY you spy on your users and so forth..
that is not my problem....
My problem is that it is being posted at this forum.

2. If you want to help a user by giving him his request of a PM-Spy bot, you should have written the script in a PRIVATE message to that user, thereby PRIVATE and this conversation would never have taken place.

3. I hope you've learned from this misstake and if not search for other requests of such bots and look at the answers.

4. OK; nuff said for me, BE NICE on eachother :D

// Kepp

1. You are entitled to your point of view, but then again i still cannot see why its a problem to you..

2. So this forum is now to be renamed "LUAScripts the PtokaX APPROVED script resource" then is it ?

3. I'm an old dog I'm afraid... ;) but will try to learn from the experience

4. Again as I think i've said before it was your comment that fueled this discussion. So if you want to say "OK; nuff said for me, BE NICE on each other" try not to start the conversation with the thread "lame".. I thought I was being nice.... its that marilyn chap thats the rebel rouser hehehe

regards
Stravvie

I will not bother answering 1,2 nor 3 as if i do the conversation will continue forever and soon with a topic out of the blue..

4 however, i will...
my lame post may have started it, but also look the posibilty that your script of an allready removed script by phatty could just aswell have started it... Nobody knows..
lol

Anyway, im off for bed, :P

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Post by: ??????Hawk?????? on 26 April, 2005, 02:24:55

hmmmm

to repeat

PM = PRIVATE MESSAGE

the Ptokax Command

SendPmToNick(ToNick, FromNick, Data) - Data without ending | !

you see the the pattern ...

PM

If you want to SPY / Eavesdrop on your user then go ahead .. Learn the code and create it yourself..

NO respectable Scripter in this forum Will post Such a LAME script

This thread is littred with Lame Excuses ,stupid comments , and non called for INSULTS

Quotejiten.. you're very stupid ;)

the ONLY STUPID ppl in here are the ones that think PM means anything else But PRIVATE MESSAGES.

. Advertising in pm, Fixed with appropriate script
. Dungeons and dragons, hmmmm YEH ( unique excuse though )
. PM spying , LAME ( get a LIFE )

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Post by: Stravides on 26 April, 2005, 07:53:51

Everything was calming down until another geek in his ivory tower decendeth.....

Listen chum ... as I said before I dont give a flying rats ass for your opinion and as such think YOU are the lame one for your commentary..
Again it all depends upon the usage...

I have 3 hubs and only 1 is monitored PM - The Roleplay hub !

I respect the privacy in the other two !!!

Therefore lets get back to the subject in hand and stop bickering like children --- Oh and you "coders from on high" can go back to your towers now.....

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Post by: Dessamator on 26 April, 2005, 11:09:49

so whats the subject at hand?, have u noticed something stravides, the person who created this thread hasnt even said a single thing, think about that b4 u post again !

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Post by: wegface on 26 April, 2005, 11:10:58

How about ending this idiotic thread now?
FAct is any hub owner with ptokax can read every pm sent. Its in the hubsoft. NO script needed. If you care bout privacy so much then speak in whispers........ or stay in ynhub hubs.
Its been like this for blooming ages too. LOL

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Post by: 6Marilyn6Manson6 on 26 April, 2005, 11:12:11

Close this post please ;)

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Post by: kash? on 30 June, 2005, 17:56:48

I read all these posts for the first time,
and after all this all I can say is -
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Only OO7 has right to spy :))

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Post by: kunal on 12 July, 2005, 16:40:30

y dont the moderators close this topic by deleting this thread

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Post by: plop on 12 July, 2005, 18:03:11

QuoteOriginally posted by kunal
y dont the moderators close this topic by deleting this thread

because this script request comes back all the time, and now maby those fools who request it might find it.

plop

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