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PtokaX => Support => Topic started by: Fangs404 on 23 April, 2005, 10:13:43

Title: a few suggestions
Post by: Fangs404 on 23 April, 2005, 10:13:43
i have a few suggestions regarding the commands available to users when they type !help.

first, i'd really like to be able to edit the current list of commands users see when they type !help.  maybe an .xml file of the commands could be used so that we could easily edit the current list.  we could also add to/change the command names.  this would be nice, for example, if i wrote a script that would allow ops to use !.  i could add this line and a brief description.  without the ability to add commands, they'll never know it exists.

along those same lines, it'd be great if there were native command abbreviations.  for example, !gtb would be a nice shortcut to the wordy !gettempbanlist.  or !gi would be a nice replacement for !getinfo.  this, in a way, ties into my above suggestion.  with the ability to alter the command list, we admins could add our own abbreviations.  a nice set of abbreviations for the default commands would be really nice, though.

another feature request i have is that the !getbanlist be expanded.  for example, i think there should be 3 commands to view the ban list.  one, !getbanlist (or !gbl if you use my above suggestion), would show all of the bans currently listed.  something like:

QuoteTemporary Bans


Permanent Bans

then, the other two commands would be !getpermbanlist (or !gpb) and !gettempbanlist (or !gtb).  this would be an excellent way to be able to see all bans at once and should be fairly simple to program.

one more request (i know, this is a lot!).  currently, when i view a ban list, i see this:

QuoteTempBanList:

- [ 0 ]  <1.1.1.1> ()
- [ 1 ]  <2.2.2.2> ()
- [ 2 ]  <3.3.3.3> ()
- [ 3 ]  <4.4.4.4> ()

Use !tempunban to unban

this is great, but a feature that seems to naturally follow that i was surprised not to find is to be able to call !tempunban <#> rather than !tempunban .  it's cumbersome and a pain in the butt to have to copy text from mainchat in virtually any dc client because as the chat progresses, any highlighting done to copy text disappears.  so, being able to call !tempunban 2 should remove the user with IP 3.3.3.3.

i'm not criticizing your program, although it may look that way.  it's a wonderful piece of software, and i think the above changes would make it even more user-friendly.  keep up the good work, and i can't wait for the next version!
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Post by: Dessamator on 23 April, 2005, 11:24:44
QuoteOriginally posted by Fangs404
i have a few suggestions regarding the commands available to users when they type !help.

first, i'd really like to be able to edit the current list of commands users see when they type !help.  maybe an .xml file of the commands could be used so that we could easily edit the current list.  we could also add to/change the command names.  this would be nice, for example, if i wrote a script that would allow ops to use !.  i could add this line and a brief description.  without the ability to add commands, they'll never know it exists.

along those same lines, it'd be great if there were native command abbreviations.  for example, !gtb would be a nice shortcut to the wordy !gettempbanlist.  or !gi would be a nice replacement for !getinfo.  this, in a way, ties into my above suggestion.  with the ability to alter the command list, we admins could add our own abbreviations.  a nice set of abbreviations for the default commands would be really nice, though.

another feature request i have is that the !getbanlist be expanded.  for example, i think there should be 3 commands to view the ban list.  one, !getbanlist (or !gbl if you use my above suggestion), would show all of the bans currently listed.  something like:

QuoteTemporary Bans


Permanent Bans

then, the other two commands would be !getpermbanlist (or !gpb) and !gettempbanlist (or !gtb).  this would be an excellent way to be able to see all bans at once and should be fairly simple to program.

one more request (i know, this is a lot!).  currently, when i view a ban list, i see this:

QuoteTempBanList:

- [ 0 ]  <1.1.1.1> ()
- [ 1 ]  <2.2.2.2> ()
- [ 2 ]  <3.3.3.3> ()
- [ 3 ]  <4.4.4.4> ()

Use !tempunban to unban

this is great, but a feature that seems to naturally follow that i was surprised not to find is to be able to call !tempunban <#> rather than !tempunban .  it's cumbersome and a pain in the butt to have to copy text from mainchat in virtually any dc client because as the chat progresses, any highlighting done to copy text disappears.  so, being able to call !tempunban 2 should remove the user with IP 3.3.3.3.

i'm not criticizing your program, although it may look that way.  it's a wonderful piece of software, and i think the above changes would make it even more user-friendly.  keep up the good work, and i can't wait for the next version!

damn too many suggestions and too much blah blah, keep it short and simple ,
but i get ur point some ppl would like to have abreviations of commands, well theres 2 ways of going through this, u can script them, or use right click commands and save urself the hassle,

as for command reply((getbanlist) appearing in main
its ur own fault in ptokax u can enable so that it appears in pvt,  and last but not least ur first suggestion, well, that could b added
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Post by: Fangs404 on 24 April, 2005, 02:05:06
QuoteOriginally posted by Dessamator
damn too many suggestions and too much blah blah, keep it short and simple ,
but i get ur point some ppl would like to have abreviations of commands, well theres 2 ways of going through this, u can script them, or use right click commands and save urself the hassle,

as for command reply((getbanlist) appearing in main
its ur own fault in ptokax u can enable so that it appears in pvt,  and last but not least ur first suggestion, well, that could b added

forgive me for trying to offer some good suggestions.  i like to make sure i'm understood.

as for your second paragraph, did you read what i wrote?  i don't care about it showing up in main.  i'm talking about having an expansion on the command.  change 2 commands into 3.  reread what i wrote.
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Post by: Dessamator on 24 April, 2005, 12:33:36
hmmm really?, first of all lets analise ur text,
look at these:
 
Quotealong those same lines, it'd be great if there were native command abbreviations. for example, !gtb would be a nice shortcut to the wordy !gettempbanlist. or !gi

Quoteone, !getbanlist (or !gbl if you use my above suggestion), would show all of the bans currently listed

Quotethen, the other two commands would be !getpermbanlist (or !gpb) and !gettempbanlist (or !gtb).

notice a pattern there?,
u keep repeating urself, as for the last part of ur loooong essay, i do agree, it would b simpler to just use the !tempunban #, and furthermore, if u script those things as i suggested b4, u could have 1000 expansions of the command, using right click (commands as i suggested b4) would solve that too,

pls evaluate ur txt b4 u post !!
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Post by: Fangs404 on 24 April, 2005, 22:45:03
QuoteOriginally posted by Dessamator
hmmm really?, first of all lets analise ur text,
look at these:
 
Quotealong those same lines, it'd be great if there were native command abbreviations. for example, !gtb would be a nice shortcut to the wordy !gettempbanlist. or !gi

Quoteone, !getbanlist (or !gbl if you use my above suggestion), would show all of the bans currently listed

Quotethen, the other two commands would be !getpermbanlist (or !gpb) and !gettempbanlist (or !gtb).

notice a pattern there?,
u keep repeating urself, as for the last part of ur loooong essay, i do agree, it would b simpler to just use the !tempunban #, and furthermore, if u script those things as i suggested b4, u could have 1000 expansions of the command, using right click (commands as i suggested b4) would solve that too,

pls evaluate ur txt b4 u post !!

you're completely misunderstanding and not reading what i wrote.  the first thing you quoted is when i first introduce the concept of abbreviations.  i'm just using an example.  the second and third quotes have nothing to do with the abbreviations!  i'm suggestioning splitting the two commands for retieving the ban lists into 3.  this is not about abbreviations!  i suggest abbreviations that could go along with them, but you completely missed the point.
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Post by: Dessamator on 24 April, 2005, 23:10:26
hmmmm, okkkkkk, ur right i was wrong, but this is the effect of longish texts, ppl start reading and they get lost . so sumarizing what u want is :

1.Abreviation of commands, and ability to change or rename all ptokax inbuild commands
2. a Banlist command which lists  both the perm and temp bans,
3.!tempunban #,
4.( useless stuff .uve already stated that b4)
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Post by: ruler on 24 April, 2005, 23:38:29
eheheh  this is good  :D
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Post by: Stravides on 24 April, 2005, 23:49:36
Fangs404 - dont rise to the bait - its a lost cause...

"ivory tower syndrome" has set in here
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Post by: Fangs404 on 24 April, 2005, 23:52:58
QuoteOriginally posted by Stravides
Fangs404 - dont rise to the bait - its a lost cause...

"ivory tower syndrome" has set in here

you're right.  :)

ok, anyway, back to the original topic (no more bickering).  how many of you would find a use for my ideas?