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Stuff => Offtopic => Topic started by: PPK on 01 June, 2005, 23:30:19

Title: hublist.org under control of stupids ?
Post by: PPK on 01 June, 2005, 23:30:19
One of my friend hubs have last few weeks problem with buggy pinger from hublist.org...
Quote[2005-06-01 01:32:24] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 01:35:48] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 01:36:12] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 01:38:47] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 01:49:06] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 01:52:24] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:03:45] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.172.46 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:06:34] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:11:39] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:15:46] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:24:01] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:25:05] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:25:57] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:26:53] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:28:43] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:29:27] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:30:31] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:36:40] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:45:11] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:46:33] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.172.46 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:51:47] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:56:16] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.172.46 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 02:58:46] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 03:00:06] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.172.46 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 03:02:24] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 03:12:42] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.172.46 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 03:29:25] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 06:31:11] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 06:32:13] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 06:32:39] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 06:41:17] *** Pinger from IP: 85.217.1.75 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 06:51:48] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 06:52:35] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 06:55:52] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 07:05:07] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 07:10:26] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 07:21:34] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.172.46 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 07:59:51] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 08:40:45] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 08:41:47] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 08:57:55] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 08:58:12] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 10:56:30] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 11:02:17] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.161.120 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
[2005-06-01 11:19:57] *** Pinger from IP: 80.222.172.46 with nick: {HubListPinger} detected.
And today trying to do something with this problem on hublist.org hub
Quote[2005-06-01 16:44] hi guys .)  i'd like to ask about some hublist pingers ip..
[2005-06-01 16:44] .cause our hub is permanently pinget by this ip addresses and we are getting really annoyed .(
[2005-06-01 16:45] i wanna make sure these ip's are not hublist pingers
[2005-06-01 16:46] 80.222.161.120  80.222.172.46  82.141.125.115  85.217.1.75
[2005-06-01 16:46] if any1 could help us we would be really happy .)
[2005-06-01 16:47] thx
[2005-06-01 16:48] <[VIP]Phaze> pinger has dynamic IP
[2005-06-01 16:48] <[VIP]Phaze> check those IPs at ripe.net, if they are from finland, heh, its ok ;)
[2005-06-01 16:49] i already did
[2005-06-01 16:49] <[VIP]Phaze> and ?
[2005-06-01 16:49] what is your hub address, i delete it from database
[2005-06-01 16:50] if they are not hublist pingers then it wouldn't be necessary
[2005-06-01 16:51] give me the address, then we dont ping your hub again
[2005-06-01 16:52] strykofedor.no-ip.info:444    is it this?
[2005-06-01 16:52] frizhub.no-ip.com
[2005-06-01 16:52] no the first one is ok
[2005-06-01 16:52] http://www.hublist.org/?p=hub&id=112529
[2005-06-01 16:54] yes
[2005-06-01 16:54] thats it
[2005-06-01 16:55] so in the case the pingers still pings us do u have any idea (advice) how to avoid it?
[2005-06-01 16:56] close your hubs
[2005-06-01 16:57] http://www.hublist.org/?p=hub&id=124825    http://www.hublist.org/?p=hub&id=112529       thak you and good bye
[2005-06-01 16:58] u took it pretty seriously..sry for bothering u .(
It looks like bad end of good hublist  X(
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Post by: Meka][Meka on 02 June, 2005, 00:34:48
oh jus 1 more thing, PPK: the thread topic rocks! lolz  :]
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Post by: Meka][Meka on 02 June, 2005, 11:50:03
me thinks ptokax shud have its own hublist ;)
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Post by: footnmouth on 02 June, 2005, 13:34:30
well we all know Meka][Meka has a personal vendetta against myself.  
i personally find him quite a funny fellow, but he seems to try to attack hubs i'm in, with less and less success everytime,  i may have to call his parents one day to put a stop to it but for the moment it adds a little excitement to my day.

Quotethat's a shame isn't it :P maybe they should learn how to talk to users properly! hublist.org used to be good, now its under control by idiots.

I hate to be the one to tell you, hublist.org is under the same controll it has always been, but now we have new anti-fake features. (seems to annoy those who think they have a right to use fake hubs to get users, hmm doesnt dreamland allow fake hubs, maybe thats why it has so much support by certain members).

with regards to PPK, at that point in time there was very little kjl could do, the only sollution was to remove the hub from the hublist to stop any further pinger logins.
maybe the delivery of the sollution wasnt perfect but remember we deal with problems all day,  we dont get paid we do it because we want to help.  a problem was presented, a sollution was offered, i cannot see why the conversation has gone on so long.
the ip's used by our pingers do vary, but there are several sites that have a good few lists,  i suggest checking on there for common ip ranges.

Foot & Mouth,
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Post by: PPK on 02 June, 2005, 14:41:18
I don't think that dreamland is better. One thing is better have more hubs in list, xml list from hublist.org is limited to "only" 1500 hubs. I like xml hublist from hublist.org, dreamland don't have this one. I like webpages allowing owners to change details, dreamland missing this :( I like actual infos for hubs on hublist.org... for this is pinger needed and 3 hours for checking hubs is good interval, only need to really check hub after this inteval ;)
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Post by: [NL]Pur on 02 June, 2005, 15:34:42
Maby it's a good question to ask , why the interval of hublist.org seems to be higher then other hublists.

Is this because they hublist.org is trying to determine minshare rules etc, or are there other reasons?

footnmouth can you explain this somewhat more in details ?
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Post by: bastya_elvtars on 02 June, 2005, 15:46:07
QuoteOriginally posted by footnmouth
but remember we deal with problems all day,  we dont get paid we do it because we want to help.  a problem was presented, a sollution was offered, i cannot see why the conversation has gone on so long.

See my (1400+) or plop's (2000+) or PPK's (300+ maybe? :D) posts. If at least 5% are so offensive like yours, I will be the first to apologize. We also do not get much money for our helping here, but we still do, so comparisons can be made, but no sense at all, hence I (and most of us here) already have my (our) opinion on your attitude.

QuoteOriginally posted bythedarkone
dont make me laugh they cant even write a decent hubsoft

I just tell you that if hublist.org hub had benn running on PtokaX, it would have been protected against the yesterday flood. I wonder who do you think you are, since PtokaX has lots of features, secure and offers a great API for LUA. PPK is known to make rock-solid software, it is enough to check CZDC++ against vanilla or BCDC++. Also, frequent updates and PPK's being open to requests make this hubsof second to none. You should use your brain before clicking the Post button.
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Post by: Mickey on 02 June, 2005, 17:06:40
LOL, what a fight. I don't want to get involved too much but I also want to admit that PtokaX is cool. Of course there is no bugless software but PPK is working well and hard.

Hubs can register HubListPinger(s) to avoid that type of flood.
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Post by: Meka][Meka on 02 June, 2005, 17:11:22
QuoteOriginally posted by footnmouth
, but he seems to try to attack hubs i'm in, with less and less success everytime.

its funny this, why not ask the ppl in your hub and trying your website, your website was down, your pinger ws down, your hub was fked, only differ is, it was stopped in interest of sorting problems, causing less for ppk etc, but we can find out if u want? maybe leave u down all day eh?

i heard your limited to bandwidth also, i sure can make that vanish..... dont try be a cocky prick if u dont know who your messing with....
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Post by: Rahxie on 02 June, 2005, 17:40:12
what the fuck! why were all my posts deleted yet all the rest are still here? pillocks

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I'll help drain bandwidth, maybe everyone here should work on a hublist pinger etc for ptokax then we don't need this 'hublist.org' crap...
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Post by: Meka][Meka on 02 June, 2005, 17:43:09
QuoteOriginally posted by Rahxie
what the fuck! why were all my posts deleted yet all the rest are still here? pillocks

some of mine have been deleted, and quite a few others, pffft.... whats point of an offtopic if u cant even have a decent off topic chat, me thinks its purs doing
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Post by: PPK on 02 June, 2005, 17:44:36
QuoteOriginally posted by [NL]Pur
why the interval of hublist.org seems to be higher
To check if hub running and have only running hubs on list, to check usercount, to get userlist with nick to have working user search... here is very much reasons for this  ;)
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Post by: Rahxie on 02 June, 2005, 18:22:39
QuoteOriginally posted by Meka][Meka
QuoteOriginally posted by Rahxie
what the fuck! why were all my posts deleted yet all the rest are still here? pillocks

some of mine have been deleted, and quite a few others, pffft.... whats point of an offtopic if u cant even have a decent off topic chat, me thinks its purs doing

yep it is pur, i got banned from dcdev coz of the prick
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Post by: PPK on 02 June, 2005, 20:14:51
QuoteOriginally posted by D-J Valhala
who DELETED my and Corayzon Postes?!!??!
[NL]Pur ;)
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Post by: Able_Fool on 03 June, 2005, 12:51:41
HAHAHA u know what Foot&Mouth...

U told me that ur one of the worst ppl i would eva meet in DC but TBH m8 ur fook all :P i dont like u necva have liked you and if you really wanna HELP

CLOSE UR SHIT hublist DOWN
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Post by: Able_Fool on 03 June, 2005, 13:10:06
the only reason u get SUCH support for your HUBLIST is because the SILY PPL that they are that MAKE DC CLIENTS

put ur hub list in the clients as DEFAULT...

if it was up to me i wouldnt...

unfortunatly its not up to me so i guess til the silly ppl decide diff then i guess were stuck with a dick like u
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Post by: footnmouth on 03 June, 2005, 13:34:34
ahh how nice to see people expressing their views with a brand new account and at the same time the thread gets unlocked...

btw its not my hublist!
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Post by: [NL]Pur on 03 June, 2005, 20:54:23
It seems this board is hungry for drama, so i give you my last.

I don't know who Opend the thread that i closed.

but since Meka][Meka is the same guy as phatty , it probably him, since he is also moderator on this board.

This is not the first time i'm sick of this board, and this will be the last time. Since i'll leave, i guess alot of ppl left this board already because of kids.

@ PPK, ptaczek or opium , plz delete my account.

bye.
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Post by: pHaTTy on 04 June, 2005, 00:03:45
i'd like to just add that i aint re-opened any threads until now, and considering i only just got back on from formatting comp, then someone pm's me on msn sending me this link..... :baby:

anyways im gone finishing sorting comp, me no longer have nowt todo with any of these conversations, they r stupid....

-Re-Closed-